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On May 24, 11:27*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
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The problem comes in with regular customers

I'm a regular customer...been buying propane for a long, long time.
They didn't fool me.


no notice of a change in weight was posted

Hmm...maybe I got a very special tank of AmeriGas 'cuz it is clearly
posted on the label. It's sitting on my deck next to my grill. Stop
over and take a look. I might even throw a steak on the grill for you.


Fact is, 99.9% of people that have been buying full tanks for the
past 20 or 40 years don't look at the net weight every time they buy.

* * I don't doubt the marking at all. *You are one of the very few that
actually looks at that. Most people have no clue aside from the fact it is a
"20 pound" tank.


Then why did you say "The tanks size was not changed and no notice of
a change in weight was posted."?

Do you want them the label the tanks as "15 lbs, used to be 17"? or
"The tank formally known as 17"?


And for that reason the store has to post a change in the net weight?
Where? Should they take an ad out in the paper? Should they get on the
local news? Should they post a big sign over the metal bin that holds
the propane saying "Attention! You are only getting 15 lbs for your
$20, not 17 like you used to."?
Can you imagine the labor it would take if the buying public had to be
notified with a sign or notice every time an item that used to be
"this" is now "that"? That's what labels and unit pricing tags are
for. *Be an educated consumer and do your homework.


When prices drop, they have plenty of signs reading "New-- Lower Price" in
big letters *Same can be done with higher price if they wanted to.


Right, but why would they want to?


but they don't put 120 ounces of milk in a 128 ounce container

But they *can* as long as they mark it as such. I have certainly seen
containers that are not as full as they used to be, but the label told
me how much I was getting and how much I was paying for that amount.
Oh wait, I got a better idea. Let's have them re-tool the propane tank
factories to make the tanks smaller. That way a tank with 15 lbs in it
will be full. Of course, they'll have to raise the price even higher
to cover the cost of re-tooling and manufacturing all the new tanks,
but at least the tanks will be full. Will that make you happy?


They did it for icecream containers, tuna cans, and many other items. Can be
done.


You don't refill ice cream containers or tuna cans. They are always
made new. I'm not a manufacturing engineer, but I'm pretty sure that
retooling for ice cream containers and tuna cans is a lot cheaper than
retooling for propane tanks and having to pull all of the existing
ones off the market. In addition, I'm sure we're paying for the
retooling of the ice cream container and tuna can lines. You should be
*thanking* them for not making 15 lb tanks. It's keeps the cost down.

I'd rather pay the higher price and keep containers the same and make
less trips. There is a definite cost to the lower price as the product does
not last as long nad has to be hauled more often.


That's a totally different discussion. The fact that you would be
willing to pay the higher cost doesn't mean that you're getting
"ripped off" if they put 15 lbs in a container that can hold 17 - and
mark it as such.