westom wrote:
On May 6, 10:13 am, bud-- wrote:
The lie repeated. The suppressor that protects TV1 does no damage to TV2.

Page 42 Figure 8

The lie repeated, as I have said repeatedly and trader just showed.

Where does bud address the OP's problem?

w lost track of the OP's problem long ago.

The OP's problem was adding a ground wire to existing outlets.
I provided answers.
w has not.

bud even encourages three
wire protectors on two wire circuits - a safety violation.

w is hallucinating again (still?).

No earth ground means no effective protection.

The required religious mantra.

He never answers the OP's questions.

I did and w didn't.
w can't follow what happens in a thread "this complicated" and his
hallucinations take over.

Of course still never seen - anyone who agrees with w that plug-in
suppressors do NOT work.
Because no one in the known universe agrees with w.

Of course still missing - answers to simple questions:
- Why do the only 2 examples of protection in the IEEE guide use plug-in
suppressors?
- Why does the NIST guide says plug-in suppressors are "the easiest
solution"?
- Why does the NIST guide say "One effective solution is to have the
consumer install" a multiport plug-in suppressor?
- How would a service panel suppressor provide any protection in the
IEEE example, pdf page 42?
- Why does the IEEE guide say for distant service points "the only
effective way of protecting the equipment is to use a multiport
[plug-in] protector"?
- Why did Martzloff say in his paper "One solution. illustrated in this
paper, is the insertion of a properly designed [multiport plug-in surge
suppressor]"?
- Why do your "responsible manufacturers" make plug-in suppressors?
- Why does "responsible" manufacturer SquareD says "electronic
equipment may need additional protection by installing plug-in
[suppressors] at the point of use"?
- Where is a source that says protection is "inside every appliance"?
- How do you protect airplanes from direct lightning strikes? Do they
drag an earthing chain?

And (with some overlap):
1 - Do appliances and electronics typically have some built-in surge
protection, eg MOVs? Yes or no.
2 - If the answer to 1 is yes, which we all know to be the case, then
how can that surge protection work without a direct earth ground?
3 - How can aircraft be protected from surges, caused by lightning or
static in the air, since they have no direct earth ground?

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Why aren’t *flying* planes crashing every day w??? No earth ground
means no protection.
Why can't you answer the question???
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For real science read the IEEE and NIST guides. Both say plug-in
suppressors are effective.

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bud--