"Ernie Willson" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Ernie Willson" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Don Klipstein" wrote in message
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In , Ernie Willson
wrote:

A 22 cal "CB cap" would do the job quietly and efficiently. These are
more powerful than most air rifles and less powerful/noisy than a 22
short. They are pretty nearly silent. You are still discharging a
firearm though. In fact here in the police state of NJ shooting an
air
gun is legally classified as discharging a firearm...go figure.
Use of an air gun is legally classified as use of a firearm?

Does that mean it is legal to use an air gun where it is legal to use
a "real gun" in NJ? And illegal to use an air gun in place of a "real
gun" to be used illegally?

Does this only mean that use of an air gun to commit a crime makes
the
crime a "gun crime", or is it worse?

Meanwhile, it appears to me that in at least most of the 50 States
shooting of varmints and for that matter "plinking" with "real guns"
is
not prohibited nor badly regulated by state law. And it appears to me
that prohibitions on discharging firearms in general are municipal
laws
and not state ones.

- Don Klipstein )

Here, it's a local law, and for good reason. Even in the most spacious
of neighborhoods, houses are still 100-200 feet apart. Anyone who
thinks of plinking varmints in such an environment is a moron. That's
why it's so much fun to read threads like this one. Morons are
entertaining, at least until they shoot a neighbor, which eventually
they will. The preponderance of stupid hunting accidents is proof of
this fact.

Disclaimers:
- I own guns.
- I don't hunt, but I know some perfectly safe & smart hunters.
So far as I can see, the only "moron" to check into this thread is
someone who ASSumes that everyone else lives in a place as crowded as
where he lives.

For all you know MKIRSCH1 could live in Death Valley.

EJ in NJ


I'm not about to go back and check, but in previous incarnations of this
discussion, others have opined that they probably wouldn't hit their
neighbor. If it's being discussed, it's a risk. How far can a .22 fly, in
your opinion?
A 22 Long rifle bullet fired upwards at the appropriate angle can fly a
maximum distance of about one mile on level ground. This is fact and
printed on most 22LR boxes. When it came down (after a mile flight) it is
doubtful if it would have enough energy to injure anyone. If the rifle
were pointed horizontally as in shooting at something on the ground, the
range would be more like 600 to 900 ft. If someone shot a 22 CB cap (which
I discussed) horizontally, the range would be more like 100 to 150 ft. The
practical range where someone could be injured by the CB cap is about 50
ft.

EJ in NJ


Just wanted to be sure we read the same 22LR box and we were functioning in
the same reality.