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By the way down here the Expo Design Center (Home Depot's high end
stores) are closing and everything is 50% off.

I was there today and came across a return item, two boxes of trims
for the 6" housings. Those are Halo 30WAT, and each box has 18 of
them each one was marked down to $10.00 and 50% off that. So I got
all 28 of those trims. However I did not notice that some of them
are different, turns out I ended up with 11 of 30WAT and 17 of the
30WATH. They look the same except the 30WAT (62400 60332) the upper
inside part of the cone is white, anf the 30WATH (62400 68832) the
upper inside part of the cone is silver.

I took your advice and used H7T housing for most of my down lighting
and it seems the 30WAT(H) will work, according to Halo's website I
can use 100W A19 if I wanted to but I probably will use 75W instead.

I wonder if I can tell the difference between 30WAT and 30WATH down
from below after the bulbs are inserted.

MC

That is an airtite trim. You remove the guts of the frame, leaving
the ceramic socket which clips into the end of the trim, with a
gasket, keeping it air tight. Be careful when installing them, the
spring wires that hold the trim into the frame, can be a bit tricky,
and the rim of the trim bends very easily




RBM what do you mean by removing the guts of the frame? You mean it
does not install by pushing it into the housing like the other trims?

Thanks,

MC

Correct, that trim has a hole at the narrow end, and the socket mounts
directly to it. Currently, the socket is mounted on a flat plate
inside the can. You remove the wing nut on the side of the can that
holds that plate, pull it down, out of the can, and pinch the two
spring steel retainers on the socket to remove it from the plate.
Discard the plate and mount the socket to the trim.




Oh I see, and by doing that, I lose the adjustable aspect of the H7T
socket. I didn't think of that. Actually now that I look closer at it,
I think it would be very difficult to mount this trim to the housing
could be very tricky. May be I should have gotten the 410W instead even
if this one is heavily discounted.

MC

When you use a 30wat trim you do forfeit the adjustments. It's also
designed for an R-30 lamp, but the physical size of the opening is about
the same as on a 410 trim , which used an R-40 , which fills the opening
better


RBM, what is the real benefit for an airtight trim?

Is it more for retrofit application? I mean, the existing housing is
non-airtight so this corrects it? In my case since I am putting up new
housing, I could have gotten a H7ICAT and be done with that and still can
us any trim I wanted...I think I probably messed up by getting this trim.
Have to do some thinking.now that I got about 30 of these trims at a
non-returnable non-refunable store closing discount.

MC
The advantage is that warm air can't escape through the fixture, or cold air
from above the fixture can't blow down through it, neither should be a
concern for you. Here in NY, they are a requirement in an insulated ceiling.
Believe me, I don't use them where I don't have to. I'd try to return them,
and if not sell them on ebay