On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 06:44:40 -0800 (PST), Harry K
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On Dec 31 2008, 10:25Â*am, wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:04:28 -0800, "Cheri"
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On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:44:26 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:48:43 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:08:08 -0500, Nate Nagel
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On Dec 30, 11:24 am, Frank wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
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... They are good at woodwork.

They're just people with pretty much the general range of aptitudes of
any other group...that includes there are good eggs and "not so much"
although the preponderance tends to be a little lower.

What they do seem to have is a sense of quality and durability that
doesn't seem to be common in general consumer goods. Â*I'm not saying
that EVERY Amish-made product is superior to the one you buy in a
department store, but the furniture I've seen is definitely superior -
all solid woods, none of that veneer over chipboard crap. Â*Better,
smoother finishes. Â*Paneled doors are really paneled doors, not a glued
up panel routed to look like one. Â*etc. etc. etc.

Of course I come from a fairly frugal family of mostly German ancestry,
so the Amish and I probably have at least a little in common as to how
we look at physical goods...

nate

Do Germans also beat their wives and children, and consider them
property?
Likely as many germans as Amish.

It is not, regardless what the media may report, the "norm".

MOST are very loving husbands and fathers.

It's a religious cult, and these are part of their belief system.
Women and children are property, and it is considered a good thing to
beat them regularly. Gods will, ya know!

That is not true.

Cheri

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You are the one making the claim, back it up. She does not have to as
that wouild be trying to prove a negative.

Harry K
Absolutely and totally NOT true.
Farthest from the tennants of their religion.
They are non-resistant pacifists who do not believe in violence, but
also don't put up with much nonsence and believe that to spare the rod
is to spoil the child onlt to the extent that when correction is
required, it is not with-held.
"apply the boot of knowlege to the seat of understanding" as my
grand-dad was sometimes heard to say.