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On Dec 27, 10:44 pm, "RBM" wrote:
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On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:55:32 GMT, Erma1ina
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On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 06:47:24 GMT, Erma1ina
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Jeff Wisnia wrote:

Erma1ina wrote:
RBM wrote:

"HeyBub" wrote in message
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It can be done - if you're smug enough.

http://jalopnik.com/5118297/tech+sav...-hybrid-to-pow...
Clearly, the kind of dumb-assed environmental wacko story I'd
expect from
Mass. I use an inverter on a deep cycle marine battery in my
service
vehicle. It powers chargers, lights, and the occasional power
tool. Most of
the time it spends slowly recharging off the vehicle alternator.
short
bursts are all they're really good for,if you're using any real
power. So
this clown runs out to recharge his car once an hour or so, and
thinks he's
a genius. If he had a half a brain he wouldn't be bothering
powering his
refrigerator during a snow storm, and he'd own a cheap generator
like his
smarter, but less environmentally friendly neighbors, who are
all,
by the
way, laughing at the idiot.

Either RBM didn't read or didn't comprehend the article. Perhaps
she was
distracted by a Limbaugh lame-assed rant.

http://jalopnik.com/5118297/tech+sav...-hybrid-to-pow...

Here's an excerpt:

"FIRST, the Prius carries a much LARGER BATTERY PACK than a
regular
car,
allowing someone to power more appliances for longer than the
conventional AC Delco found in most cars. SECOND, unlike some
backup
battery systems found in homes, the Prius, like other cars, can
recharge
its batteries with its normal internal combustion engine. And
here's the
BEST PART -- because the PRIUS AUTOMATICALLY TURNS ITSELF ON WHEN
THE
BATTERIES DRAIN to a certain level, SWEENEY LEFT THE CAR RUNNING
AND IT
AUTOMATICALLY TURNED OVER WHEN IT NEEDED TO RECHARGE -- about
once
every
30 minutes. IF YOU WERE TRYING TO DO WHAT SWEENEY DID WITH A
NON-HYBRID,
YOU'D FIND YOURSELF SPENDING A LOT MORE TIME OUTSIDE IN THE COLD.
I
THE
EFFICIENCY OF THE AUTO-ON FEATURE MEANT SWEENEY ONLY USED AROUND
FIVE
GALLONS OF GAS."

Sweeney used considerably more gas to produce the 17 Kwh he used
than my
Honda EU2000i would have used but I'll wager he used LESS gas
than
the
typical gas-hogging genny would have required to power what he
did
for
"a few days".

That prolly should read 17 KW, not 17 KWH, huh?

Anyone remember back maybe 35 years ago when you could buy gizmos
which
tricked a regular automobile alternator into outputting something
near
120 volts DC which could be used to power things like power tools
with
"universal" (AC or DC) electric motors in them?

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.98*10^14 fathoms per fortnight.

No. It should read exactly as it does: 17 KWH (Energy) NOT 17 KW
(Power). He used 17 KWH of ENERGY during those "few days".

I SUSPECT you are wrong - as theist generation Prius had a 17 KW
generator . Second Generation was something like30, and 3rd generation
50 or 55, from what I remember.

Don't think so. Here's the quote:

"Though he couldn't run his entire house one his one car, they were able
to get approximately 17 Kilowatt hours of energy. This was enough to
power his refrigerator/freezer, television, lights, wood stove fan and
accessories for a few days."

If he were getting 17Kw power, he'd have been able to power a heck of a
lot more -- I can power more than he could with my 2Kw EU2000i genny.

Plus, as was obvious (AND stated in the article), he was using an
inverter. When's the last time you heard of anyone just happening to
have a 17Kw inverter lying around the house? 8Kw is considered a VERY
high power consumer inverter.

A 60 amp service is 13 kw
Running a 1 kw inverter off the prius would be pure stupidity. (not
saying that's not what he did - he was an electrical engineering
professor from an ivy league university, after all.

You're finally catching on. He's an idiot, and the whole story is idiotic.
IF you piece together the facts, it's a non story created by journalistic
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He ran it for a few days, it made 17kwh over several days, not at
once. A 1000w inverter does not mean it used 1000 watts at one point,
a small inverter might have fried or failed to operate at all, but he
was smart and oversized. He made 8500 watts a day total average or
only 354 watts an hour. 354 watts hr avg, Take high and low beam
headlights, all your average side and back lights on my car and its
about 350 Watts, I have 2 sets of extra Piaa lights, throw in a 20
watt heater blower and 20 watt stereo and I am all the time on counrty
roads pulling 600++ watts on a 17 yr old smaller car original small
alternator, not a high output unit. He used only 5 gallons gas over 48
hours, that alone proves his load was very low and not all the time.
My gen at idle might use 10 gallons in 48 hrs idling at 3600 rpm. Or
what am I missing.

Ransley, you're not missing anything. Neither he, nor the Prius, did
anything special. It was a totally NON story fabricated by a bunch of
reporter environmentalist wackos, desperate to try to put wings on the Prius
and demonize the neighbor's Tahoe. To be clear, I have nothing against the
Prius, the Tahoe, or any "practical environmentalist", just the wackos