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PHT wrote:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:39:34 -0500, J. Clarke wrote:

Puckdropper wrote:
Mark & Juanita wrote in
m:

Mike O. wrote:


In this area we have a lot of aircraft manufacturing. With the
support of both the community and local business there is a
pretty
serious effort made toward improving vocational training related
to
that type of manufacturing.

Mike O.

That is a good thing partially. One downside to waiting until
that
late
to introduce students to shop principles is that by that time,
students are pretty well embarked on the direction they intend to
go.
The advantage to teaching at the high school and junior high
level
is
that it gives all students and opportunity to get some
familiarity
with equipment and tools. That can develop into a life-long
appreciation for the manual arts, even if one is not making a
living
in that field.


I believe every person who goes through school should have a basic
introduction to the use and safety of basic hand tools. This
might
be
basic hand-held power tools such as circular saws and drills.

They also need a basic introduction to cooking, such as food
safety
and preparation of easy things like hamburgers, eggs, and the
like.

Sounds like a decent way to spend a school year. Half the year is
home ec, the other half is shop.


Beats the Hell out of most of my time in school. What bugs me is
that people who escape from those torture chambers send their kids
right back and act like it's a good idea.

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In most all cases the parents have no choice about sending their
kids
to the schools, as the law requires it.


The law requires it but that doesn't mean that the parents have to
like it.

They can not even send them
to a trade school instead of regular school.


They have the option of private schools if they can afford them or
home schooling if either parent has the time. If parents didn't like
sending their kids to those miserable schools the law would have been
changed long since.

You may call them torture
chambers, but how many would be unable to read to write if they did
not attend the schools. Even now there is many who drop out of
school
that can not fill out a job application.


There are many who finished school who cannot fill out a job
application too.

The schools are a miserable experience that produce mediocre results.
The argument that they are better than nothing doesn't wash. What did
you personally learn in the public schools school other than to read
and write and do sums that was of any real value in later life?

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