On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:39:38 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


Mark Dunning wrote:

"Pete C." wrote in message
ster.com...

Wes wrote:

"Terry Coombs" wrote:

I'm wondering where I'm open to liability , since you're the second
person
to mention insurance coverage . Perhaps in the event one of my units
fails ?
I can't see the bar unit itself failing , but perhaps the surface it's
mounted on ...

One thing to consider, are you a rock that a contingency fee lawyer is
going to be able to
squeeze water or blood out of?

Insurance is for people with something to lose. Of all things, I'd think
what you are
making is one of the safer things in manufacturing. Big assed bars over
the window, my
sawsall going through the wall, my bet is on the sawsall.

Bars over windows are feel good stuff. In the typical frame home, a
battery powered
sawsall can penetrate the wall, cut a hole, and you can reach in and
unlock the door.

I don't think I'd be worried about the insurance too much.

As I noted, one of the risks is his super duper security bars preventing
an occupant from escaping a fire.

When the oil boom went bust and a savings and loan scandal broke, rroperty
values declined in OKC in the mid 80s.

My neighbor had a set of bars installed on his house as the "hood" invaded
our subdivision . I expressed my concerns about fire and he showed me how
the bottom "lagbolts" were really just bolt heads welded to the frame and
the whole assembly would pivot on the top bolts. This allowed the grating
to pivot and the occupants to go out thru the window. I think only the
bedrooms were spoofed this way and the other windows had real mounts.

Very clever thinking.

Personally, if I were to make such bars, the four corner bolts would be
sleeved through the wall and secured with pins on a rip cord type
mechanism. Perfectly secure normally, but pull the rip cord and just
push the bars off.

Ive seen the bars hinged, with the off side held in place with a rod
running through the other two pins. Quite effective and very fast to
pull the rod and swing the bar asside

Gunner

"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist..."
Maj. Gen. John Sedgewick, killed by a sniper in 1864 at the battle of Spotsylvania