On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:42:31 -0800, Bruce L. Bergman
wrote:

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:19:45 -0800, Gunner
wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:04:34 -0800, "ff" wrote:
"Karl Townsend" wrote...

You may have heard the senate race in MN is 200 votes from a
tie...I'll be part of the hand recount tomorrow.

After 2000, the Feds handed out a lot of money for voting equipment
upgrade. Nearly all (I think all but can't be certain) upgraded to a
ballot on heavy paper where you fill in the dot for your vote. At the
ballot box, a machine tallies your vote secretly and informs you if
there are over votes (too many candidate for one office) or under
votes (offices that weren't voted.

This system was supposed to be idiot proof but, of course, they just
built a better idiot.

Does the name InkaVote sound familiar? We had the exact same thing
in the "Hanging Chad" variant for decades, it's based on the old IBM
Punchcard form factor.

First, the ballot machine beeps on an over or under vote. Almost
without exception, the voter tells the ballot judge to accept anyway.
This is where the idiots get their chance.

On hand inspection, I'm sure ballots will be found where the voter has
erased or crossed out one candidate and voted for the other, ballots
where the candidate was circled or checked etc.( the machine didn't
count these), a pencil was used (again the machine didn't count
these), other unique issues.

All absentee ballot rejections will be reviewed, also. The biggest
opportunity for debate here is the rule of matching signature on the
ballot envelope and the ballot application. We rejected a couple
ballots for this at our precinct. What is considered a match is open
to debate.

Anyway, long story short. The election is totally up in the air in MN.
The Senate stands at 58 dems right now, could easily go to 59. 60 is
the magic number where we're all in trouble. (Political opinion,
there's nothing worse than one party having all the power - you need a
check and balance here)

And they'll just keep counting till they get the answer they want.

If Al Franken wins, CSPAN will be more entertaining :-)

No it won't. The Mainstream Media will soft-pedal the stupidities
on the left as they have done for decades. The only time Obama got
any bad press was when that producer was pulling for Hillary, Period

They'll edit out all the gaffes that they don't want the public to
find out about, just like we never learned Franklin Roosevelt was
confined to a wheelchair by Polio before and during his presidency -
the press agreed to downplay and hide the facts as to how bad it
really was. They simply never took a wide shot, and waited till he
was walked to the lectern with locked leg braces for speeches....

And anyone that did get a picture of FDR in a wheelchair or being
assisted had the negatives destroyed by the Secret Service.

Did I mention NY Central Rwy Track 61? This is the "Secret Train
Station" under the Waldorf-Astoria in New York City, with the freight
elevator to take FDR, already seated in his car, from the train
station to the Hotel parking garage and a drive-out exit, or straight
up to his hotel suite?

Our current sterling example of the press actively burying bad news
to Dems is Rep, Maxine Waters telling the CEO's of major US oil
companies she wants to nationalize them and keep the profits. Betcha
Katie Couric didn't give that fifteen seconds on the Six O'Clock.

And I'll bet that the Liberal Nightly News isn't going to mention a
word about the fact that our proposed new Attorney General is the same
person who pushed through the Mark Rich pardon (and dozens of other
equally odious ones) on the last day of the Clinton administration.

If Franken wins, Im moving to California, where the fruits nuts and
flakes are already in office.

Gunner

Umm, I hate to break it to you Old Man, but you might want to take a
closer look at your drivers license and such.

After hearing all the Libtards claiming they would move to Canada,
France and so forth, I had to claim I was going to move
someplace....G

About the only hope would be to split the state, and send all the
real wackos off to San Francisco - send Tony Villar off to live with
Gavin Newsom, the rocks in Antonio's head fit the holes in Gavin's.

"Southern California" would start at the southside of Gorman..we can
put up a really good choke point there, with a Point of Entry there,
and the hills on both sides will sport heavy weapons bunkers with
chain gun emplacements thickly seeded on both sides of the road way.

The Free State of Central California would start there, and go up to
Redding, with a jog around Sacramento. Free Northern California
would start there and go up to the border. A strip along the coast
would be turned into a Reservation for Liberals, which would include
the Peoples Republik of Santa Barbara, and Im sure it would annex the
Democratic Peoples Republik of Santa Monica, Cambria etc.

Orange County will be the Free Vietnamese zone and would have a seat
in the Confederation of Free Californias

After the Chicoms detonate nukes on container ships in Long Beach
and San Pedro harbors...most of Los Angeles will be uninhabitable, so
we ship all Liberals found in the Free states to Los Angeles and let
the Politburos of Santa Barbara and Santa Monica take care of them,
and their other homeless populations. Im sure they would be tickled to
tax themselves to pay for all the freebies.

Immigrants to Central and Northern California would be vetted carefuly
as to skills, intelligence and political view, along with proof of
legal status. Im sure the Libs in So. Cal would be happy to take care
of the 3 million illegal aliens in the current California, so we ship
them to Santa Monica for processing and their free tennis shoes, wide
screen TV and Sec. 8 housing allocations.

Boeing, MD and most of the other major industrial giants would have
plenty of room to set up shop in the High Desert, as the tax rate
would be a fraction of the current one, and the various reactors that
would be built around Boron and Onyx would take care of their power
needs along with those of the Free Central Valley. As for water, we
simply turn off the tap to So. California and let Lake Kern refill.
Lots of oil and gas in FCC, so thats not an issue. Im sure Long Beach
would supply enough petroleum products for So. Cal. After all, how
much grease do donkey carts and bicycles really need? Green
Transportation at its finest.

Im not quite sure though, what we would do with San Diego. While
there are a ****load of military, retired military and so forth,
Mexico would make great efforts to turn it into another State, and
while the weather is good, Im not sure its worth going to war with
Mexico over....Humm...they might decide that LA etc is also part of
Mexico. Which would solve the Liberal Problem, as the Mexicans would
simply put all the Libs against the nearest wall and shoot them.

The corrupt Mexican government hates Liberals because they are
competition.

We'll have to make isolation zones drawn around Hollywood, Culver
City and Universal City (all the major studio lots) to create a
"Liberal DMZ", since they can't move the good weather to Frisco.

(Yeah, I called it Frisco. Deal with it, you pansies.)

-- Bruce -- a Los Angeles Native, but I'm getting better.