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Default JOE THE PLUMBER? Try "Joe the Fraud" -- Or "Joe the Tax-Dodger"-- Or "Joe the Republican Plant"

On Oct 17, 12:12*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
jisseigh wrote:
Just a big hoax, folks.


Why do you think McFart brought up his "name" 23 times during the
faux- debate the other night?


Because Joe is emblematic of Obama's "share the wealth" position. Liberals
tend to believe the amount of wealth is fixed and fairness demands that it
be redistributed. Conservatives tend to believe that wealth can be created
and the more opportunities for wealth creation, the better-off everyone
becomes. That's why conservatives don't care how much money CEOs make -
conservatives believe they can create their own wealth. Conversely, liberals
believe that whatever millions a CEO makes is that much less that can go to
the folks.

Actually, Adam Smith solved this dichotomy in the late 18th century with his
monumental work: "The Wealth of Nations." It's a pity many haven't kept up.



As details emerge, you'll find this guy, who not only doesn't want to
pay high taxes, but doesn't even pay taxes at all, is not even a
licensed plumber -- he's thus an outlaw -- and the so-called company
he "works for" is not licensed to do plumbing in Ohio.


Uh, so what?



Topping it off, Joe the Liar is not even registered to vote and has
"no comment" about how he just managed to "meet" Obama during the
rally that attracted a huge crowd. *Just in time to be written into
McTurd's debate notes.


Fact is, Joe the Bum was dredged up by Republican tricksters to
"confront" Obama at a campaign stop, to complain about Barack's plans
for taxation. *Turns out Joe the Hoax has no prospects for owning a
business, much less a knowledge of the implications of Obama's tax
plans. *Or the honesty and decency to know he should pay taxes owed.


Heh! There was no "rally" and no "huge crowd." Joe was playing catch
football with his son, in his own front yard, when Obama walked up to him..
Not a plant at all, certainly not like the protesters that infiltrate
Republican gatherings with home-made signs.

You really should watch the news, not the partisan blogs.

Joe may have no prospects for owning a business - but he can dream.

As for knowing about Obama's tax plan, I admit that's problematic. Obama
asserts that 95% of Americans will have their taxes reduced, but somewhere
between 30 and 40% of American families don't pay any taxes anyway (it's
Democrat math). Also implicit in Obama's 95% claim is that SOME will have
their taxes increased.

Some accountants suggest non-payment of property taxes. Depending on
circumstances - such as the penalty percent for late payment - it may be the
equivalent of borrowing money at 3%!



He's just a DAFFI DUMB **** in work boots -- a clueless fake and lying
fraud.


REPUBLICAN FAKE *...


Joe is not a devout Republican. He originally registered as an independent
(although he did affiliate with the Republican Party this year by voting in
the GOP primary).

But Joe is not the issue: Obama is. No one should care whether Joe gets his
information from the New York Times or emanations from alien space-craft.

The only thing that registers for this election is Obama's statement: "I
want to spread the wealth around."




Nothing that Joe said that makes him a fraud. He didn't say he was
licensed. He didn't say he made $250K. He didn't say he didn't owe
the state $1000 in tax money. He only said that he had interest in
buying the plumbing business from the current owner in the future and
that then Obama's tax increase's could apply to him. When questioned
by the media, he freely admitted his current income is nowhere near
$250K.

Again, it's quite interesting that in 24 hours we know so much about
Joe, while guys like William Ayers, an acknowledged terrorist with a
friendly relationship with Obama goes uncovered. Where aren't the
news crews on Ayer's front lawn?

Or, if you want to talk about fraud and deceit, how come no one is
talking about Obama flat out denying in the debate that his campaign
has given $800K to ACORN? When questioned about it, he laughed and
said it wasn't true. Of course that was a lie, yet the media aren't
talking about that either. Had McCain told a similar lie, you can
bet it would be the lead news story.