DIYbanter - View Single Post - JOE THE PLUMBER? Try "Joe the Fraud" -- Or "Joe the Tax-Dodger" --Or "Joe the Republican Plant"

ransley

On Oct 17, 7:31*am, jisseigh wrote:
Just a big hoax, folks.

Why do you think McFart brought up his "name" 23 times during the faux-
debate the other night?

As details emerge, you'll find this guy, who not only doesn't want to
pay high taxes, but doesn't even pay taxes at all, is not even a
licensed plumber -- he's thus an outlaw -- and the so-called company
he "works for" is not licensed to do plumbing in Ohio.

Topping it off, Joe the Liar is not even registered to vote and has
"no comment" about how he just managed to "meet" Obama during the
rally that attracted a huge crowd. *Just in time to be written into
McTurd's debate notes.

Fact is, Joe the Bum was dredged up by Republican tricksters to
"confront" Obama at a campaign stop, to complain about Barack's plans
for taxation. *Turns out Joe the Hoax has no prospects for owning a
business, much less a knowledge of the implications of Obama's tax
plans. *Or the honesty and decency to know he should pay taxes owed.

He's just a DAFFI DUMB **** in work boots -- a clueless fake and lying
fraud.

REPUBLICAN FAKE *...

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"After Debate, Glare Of Media Hits Joe"

"Plumbers Union, Tax Collectors Notice"

By Robert Barnes
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, October 17, 2008; A02

"The real winner" of Wednesday night's debate, John McCain said
yesterday at a campaign stop in Downingtown, Pa., "was Joe the
Plumber."

That might depend on the definition of "winner."

Joe the Plumber, a.k.a. Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher of Holland, Ohio,
is suddenly (sort of) a household name, featured in a McCain ad and
sought after by networks news anchors and newspaper reporters. McCain
would like to meet him in person this weekend, but Wurzelbacher's got
a date on Mike Huckabee's Fox News show and might not have the time.

But the emergence of Joe has allowed the state of Ohio to locate the
man it says owes nearly $1,200 in back taxes. His motives for
confronting Sen. Barack Obama at a campaign stop in his neighborhood
earlier this week are the subject of intense Internet speculation. The
city of Toledo is preparing a letter to his employer seeking to
determine whether he is violating city codes, and the plumbers union
is on his tail.

"Joe the Plumber really isn't a plumber," said Thomas Joseph, business
manager of Local 50 of the United Association of Plumbers,
Steamfitters and Service Mechanics, whose national membership has
endorsed Obama.

Wurzelbacher, 34, had already taken tentative steps onto the national
stage after talking to Obama on Sunday as the Democrat toured his
suburban neighborhood outside Toledo. Wurzelbacher told Obama that he
wants to buy the plumbing company he works for, and that his potential
income of more than $250,000 would make him eligible for increased
taxes under Obama's proposals.

"Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?" Wurzelbacher
asked.

Obama's answer to that and a question about the flat tax -- that Obama
thought it better to "spread the wealth around" -- captured the
attention of conservative media and the McCain campaign.

"Joe wants to buy the business that he has been in for all of these
years, worked 10, 12 hours a day," McCain told Obama at the start of
Wednesday night's debate. "And he wanted to buy the business, but he
looked at your tax plan and he saw that he was going to pay much
higher taxes," deferring what McCain called "the American dream."

Joe the Plumber quickly became a metaphor for the middle class, and
between them, McCain and Obama mentioned him more than two dozen
times.

The result was an avalanche of attention: "CBS Evening News" anchor
Katie Couric on the phone, "Good Morning America" awaiting an
interview, reporters in the driveway of his modest home.

"I'm completely flabbergasted with this whole thing," he told
reporters. He did not return a phone call from The Washington Post.

The morning also showed that the spotlight can be unwelcome. Reporters
wondering who Wurzelbacher is quickly found that he owes the state of
Ohio $1,182 in back taxes, leading sharp-tongued liberal commentators
to say he was not so much concerned about rising taxes as paying taxes
at all. (A spokeswoman for the state said it is possible Wurzelbacher
did not know about the lien.)

Wurzelbacher also acknowledged to reporters that he did not have a
plumber's license but said he did not need one to do residential work
with the two-man Newell Heating and Plumbing Co., which does have a
license.

David Golis, a manager in Toledo's office of building inspections,
said that is incorrect. "We were just discussing that we will send a
letter to the owner of Newell reminding him" of the city's requirement
that all who do plumbing work be licensed or in apprentice or
journeyman programs, Golis said.

Union manager Joseph said that Wurzelbacher applied for an apprentice
program in 2003 but never completed the work.

And Wurzelbacher told reporters that the goal of buying the business
was more aspirational than firm. He said his income is "not even
close" to the levels at which Obama's proposed tax increases would
kick in.

Even if Wurzelbacher's hypothetical were true, tax experts said it is
unclear whether he would pay higher taxes under Obama's plan.

Wurzelbacher told Couric that it is Obama's approach to tax increases
that are worrisome. "When's he going to decide that $100,000 is too
much, you know?" the divorced father of a 13-year-old son said. "I
mean, you're on a slippery slope here. You vote on somebody who
decides that $250,000 and you're rich? And $100,000 and you're rich? I
mean, where does it end?"

McCain senior adviser Matt McDonald said Thursday that the Republican
nominee had mentioned Wurzelbacher's encounter with Obama in a
previous speech, but the campaign had not said he would be the
centerpiece of McCain's debate performance.

That Wurzelbacher is not a licensed plumber or that his situation is
not relevant to Obama's tax proposal did not give him pause, McDonald
said. "He's a guy who asked a question that needed to be asked,"
McDonald said. "He's not a campaign staffer; he's not a surrogate.
He's not someone who was vetted, and this wasn't something
orchestrated by the campaign."

Appearing on CBS's "Late Show With David Letterman" on Thursday night,
McCain mentioned the attention Joe the Plumber was getting and said,
"Joe, if you're watching, I'm sorry."

Earlier in the day in New Hampshire, Obama said McCain advocates tax
plans that favor the rich.

"He's trying to suggest that a plumber is the guy he's fighting for,"
Obama said. "How many plumbers do you know that are making a quarter-
million dollars a year?"

Wurzelbacher has made that he is conservative and no fan of Obama --
he told Couric that Obama's answer to his question was a "tap dance"
that was "almost as good as Sammy Davis Jr." -- but declined to say
who he will be voting for Nov. 4.

That is between him and the lever in the voting booth, he said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08/10/16/AR200...

Its joe schmoe the idiot