On 2008-09-29, Vernon wrote:
On Sep 28, 8:11*pm, "DoN. Nichols" wrote:
On 2008-09-28, Vernon wrote:
On Sep 26, 11:46*am, "Wild_Bill" wrote:
* * * * [ ... ]
By way of follow-up to everybody. *I was the successful bidder for the
Emco Compact 5 lathe / mill. *However, bidding was stiff and I was the
only guy too dumb and hard headed to give up. *I don't even know if
it's complete with all the standard essential accessories. *I will
travel to pick it up early next week and will report back.
* * * * If this was eBay -- now that it is won, could you post the URL
(or preferably auction number) for the auction so we can take a look at
it? *I could at least tell you something of what might be missing -- or
what you might want to look for. *My experience is more with the CNC
version, but I've learned about a lot of the accessories in picking up
more things for my CNC lathe.
[ ... ]
Don,
I'd be both honored and grateful for you to take a peek. Here are
both auctions: One for the lathe / mill and the other for the KBC
bench mill. I now have the bench mill. Hope to fetch the lathe
within the next day or two.
Vernon
http://www.dovebid.com/assets/displa...ItemID=wtb1887
O.K. I see that this was an alternate auction site, not eBay.
But I will comment on the machine as I see it covered in the single
photo.
It is currently set up as a mill, so there are quite a few
things missing from the lathe part. What I see as present in the mill
part a
1) The milling column and head.
2) The collet closer (uses ER-25 collets).
3) There *may* be one of the set of collets in the closer, but
I have no way to be sure of that.
4) The milling table is bolted to the cross-slide.
5) The milling head does have its fine feed adjustment (on
the right side of the head. You'll need a metric Allen key to
fit it -- and other bolts which are part of the machine.
Now -- to the lathe, and what I can see is missing and present.
6) You do have the lathe tailstock.
7) You do not have a chuck or collet closer visible for the
spindle. The spindle nose is bare, and requires a rather
specialized chuck mounting style -- screws going through each
chuck body -- or through the mounting flange of the collet
closer.
The available things to fit the spindle a
a) 3-jaw chuck with a Jacobs style key turning
the scroll plate on the back.
The jaws on this can be reversed for large diameter
outside grip.
b) A more conventional 3-jaw universal chuck, which I
consider to be better than the above. I have both.
This one comes with a second set of jaws for the outside
grip mentioned above.
c) A matching 4-jaw universal chuck -- rare, and mostly
nice for turning square stock -- or thin-walled tubing
where four contact points produces less deflection than
three.
This one comes with a second set of outside grip jaws,
four of them, of course.
d) A 4-jaw independent chuck. Thinner body than the other
chucks.
e) A faceplate with four radial T-slots, and possibly a
shield to cover the lathe dog to protect the fingers of
the operator when turning between centers. The dog
should come with this as well.
f) A collet closer which uses the same collets as the mill.
Here is one on eBay with two collets: # 170267277167
8) A ball bearing live center to fit the tailstock taper. You can
get these with a Morse taper 1 shank.
9) A drill chuck to fit the tailstock center. These also
can be found with a Morse taper 1 shank. I've got three which I
keep with my Compact-5/CNC. The one which gets used the most is
an Albrecht 1/4" (6mm) one. I also have an Albecht 1/8" (3mm)
one which I use for precision drilling -- with drill bits down
to #80. I also have for occasional use a ROHM (clone of an
Albrecht) 3/8", which is useful when I need larger bits --
though if you stumble over a set of Morse Taper 1 shanked bits,
they will be a nice fit for the machine.
10) I don't see the stack of change gears to allow setting for
various thread pitches. They mount under the left-hand cover.
11) An index fixture which accepts the same chucks as the lathe.
12) A steady rest
13) A toolpost to replace the miling table on the cross slide.
There are several styles which can be made to fit the machine.
The one which came with my Compact-5/CNC is a Dickson style
quick-change toolpost with a set of tool holders.
Here is one which would work fairly well for the Compact 5:
eBay auction # 320304759552
And another:
eBay auction # 220287814672
This is only for the CNC version, so skip it unless you expect
to pick up the CNC version later:
eBay auction # 320303997422
And here is a toolpost for the manual Compact-5:
eBay auction # 270280297743
Unfortunately, that one is in the UK so the price gets
complicated with the shipping. :-)
I hope that more of the accessories come with it than are
visible. I don't know whether this auction is a "what you see is all
that you get" type.
There is an eBay auction which has several things which you will
want, but also a *lot* of repair parts for the CNC version of the
machine. Bids are already up to $510.00 with "reserve not yet met", so
you probably don't want this unless you expect to pick up the
Compact-5/CNC in "basket case" condition, in which case this would be a
serious help.
eBay auction # 320304826587
And here is a Compact-5/CNC with a somewhat rusty chuck and
quick-change toolpost: eBay auction # 320288213355
*Way* too expensive for the visible condition in my book.
Now -- to your other win:
http://www.dovebid.com/assets/displa...temID=mmt42149
This one I am not familiar with so others will probably offer
more useful information on this. It is interesting that the auctioneers
call it a "drill press", which suggests that it may have a drill chuck
instead of a collet in the spindle nose. But it does appear to have a
drawbar at the top of the spindle, so between that and the table *I*
would call it a mill. At least you did not have someone else bidding
against you on this one, so the price was quite reasonable.
I wonder what part the other bidder was after on the Compact-5?
Perhaps the entire milling attachment? The column of the Compact-5
milling attachment is a bit weak for that to be desirable for milling of
steel at lest.
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