On Thu 28 Aug 2008 09:13:35a, phil scott told us...

On Aug 28, 5:52*am, Wayne Boatwright
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On Wed 27 Aug 2008 09:42:37p, phil scott told us...





On Aug 27, 7:00*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
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A Sears guy telling a lie? Imagine that!

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refrig. The parts guy (Sears) says that anyone can replace the
compressor, that I can get a do-it-yourself guide for $15.

A new model would be around $600 and a big pain. Is replacing a
compressor so hard?

Your repair guy is a liar. Replacing the compressor is not a diy
job. You need a refrigerant recovery machine and tank, and epa
license to be messing with and/or purchasing refrigerant, a torch
set to weld the new compressor in, a vacum pump to pull the air out
and some new refrigerant to put back in. Good luck with all that.

it pays to be accurate... *people that give loopy advice are mostly
just ignorant.
Not too many lie about such a thing, he had nothing to gain.

I realize that replacing a compressor in a refrigerator is not the same
thing as replacing a compressor in a central air conditioner,


changing a compressor in an air conditioner or refrigerator are just
about the same task, bigger compressor in the ac is all... the refrig
compressor has more critical moisture and contamination issues though
due to its well below freezing temperatures (even a slight trace of
moisture inside the system can freeze up the capilary tube...and
charging the refrigerant is a lot trickier with a home style refrig)

Yes, the same principle, but as you said, there are other issues.

but we
recently paid $860 in labor to have an in-warranty compressor replaced
in our central a/c.

thats nasty. wholesale on many of the comon type 3 ton condensing
units, fan, cabinet, compressor and all is under $1,000 ...in calif.
(high priced market) you can get a complete 3 ton add on system,
cooling coil, wiring, condensing unit etc. installed... $2500.

New house with new A/C (1-1/2 years old). The equipment has a 10 warranty,
but labor warranty was only a year. Since the A/C came with the house,
there was no option on getting a different warranty on the labor. (I asked
when we bought the house.) It's a 5 ton unit. Since it was a fairly new
unit, I couldn't see replacing the whole system.

Next time get a warranty that includes labor if you can... or skip the
warranty all together. I dont buy them myself.

The company who originally installed the system did the replacement. In
discussion with the tech who did the work, I learned that they offer a
maintenance plan for $225/year that includes two inspections/services per
year, and also includes labor for any work that needs to be performed.
That would include labor for replacing the compressor. We have taken the
maintenance plan for the future.

*It was a four hour task that involved recovry of all
existing refrigerant, disassembly and removal of the old compressor,
installation of the new compressor, recharing the unit with new freon
22, and testing of refrigerant levels and checking of temperatures of
both th
e
liquid and gas lines to and from the evaporator unit. *Several pieces o
f
spcial equipment were required. *Having watched the process, it's not
something I'd care to tackle myself. *Best left to the pros unless you'
re a
refrigerator guy.

yes, its a high tech job... unfortunately these days performed by some
very low tech people..that
can and often does ruin compressors. it sounds in your case like the
guy may have been competent
though.

I totally agree. This guy was good. My dad was an HVAC engineer and I
grew up learning a lot about these things. I spent a lot of time with the
guy while he was working. I'd ask for him back.

Thanks for your comments, Phil.


Phil scott



Just my 2¢ worth.

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