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Default GFCI outlets required with a GFCI Breaker?


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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:09:19 -0400, "RBM" wrote:


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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:26:56 -0400, "RBM" wrote:


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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:10:06 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Redoing my bathroom and I purchased GFCI outlets for the walls. But I
just realized that the bathroom, as a whole, is on a GFCI circuit
breaker. Does standard practice or the NEC require both? Or is that
overdoing it?

Not needed. My house was built with one GFI breaker for the bathroom
outlets, the kitchen sink outlets, and the outdoor outlets.

-Theodore

All those outlets are on one GF breaker?

Yeah. I think the kitchen sink would be on it, at least. There is
no other GFI in the house, or the other 108 houses like mine.

I never use any of the outlets though, except the one in the kitchen,
which I really only use for a radio, and sometimes two light bulbs
under the cabinet.

Lately I've been using one in the bathroom for an electric toothbrush
which takes almost no current, and a 12" tv, which uses some.


I question that because there was never a time in NEC history, when
Kitchen counter outlets and bathroom outlets or outside outlets could
legally be protected by the same GF breaker


I had trouble finding your reply because it had in front of it.
How did that happen!!!


Maybe I'm wrong about the kitchen outlets. I may never have confirmed
it.

But since I only have one GFI anything, and I thought the outlet in
the kitchen nearest the sink had to be GFI'd, even in 1979, (Don't
they?) I figured it was on the same GFI.

I know for sure that the front outdoor outlet is on the GFI breaker,
and I know for sure that the outlet in the bathroom with the bathtub
is on the same breaker. Is that against code?

I haven't checked the outlets in the other bathrooms or the powder
room, because I guess, I almost never use them, and they've always
worked.

I haven't checked the one close to the basement sink, into which is
plugged the washing machine.

That's not readily accessible, because I do have a washing machine and
it's in front of the outlet, but is that supposed to be GFIed. (It's
always worked.)


I believe in 1979 outlets on either side of kitchen sink , within six feet
of the sink were required to be GF protected, but they would be 20 amp
circuits. It was typical to have bathroom outlets, outside outlets, and
possibly garage outlets, on one circuit, protected by either a GF breaker,
or the first outlet in the string, usually nearest the panel, would be a
GFCI