On 2008-06-22 15:47:03 +0100, Roland Perry said:

In message op.uc4eakmlpmo3dt@lucy, at 23:33:46 on Sat, 21 Jun 2008,
Duncan Wood remarked:
Actually most of the people I've worked worked with in permanent
employment over the years have had some kind of overtime renumeration.

My experience is totally the reverse.

Clearly you move in the wrong circles...