On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:09:13 GMT, Trevor Jones
wrote:

Wes wrote:
Trevor Jones wrote:


They work good for their intended purpose, though, which is to provide
a last ditch pokey thing on the end of a shooty thing! :-)


I wonder how well a 9# battle rifle and a bayonet does piercing flexible body armor?

Wes

Pretty well.

Needs to have the hard plates in the armor for it to have a decent
stop on pointy objects.

Saw a video many years back. DeSantis, IIRC. Room full of cops. Guy
laid their entire soft armor collection over a block of putty, all the
while, giving the patter about each level of protection.

Then he say's "If you were wearing ALL of these, you'd be pretty much
invincible if you walked into an alley, right?"

While the cops in the front row are all nodding their heads, the guy
pulled a knife out from behind his back, and thunked it through the
whole stack.

Some pretty wide eyes in the front coupla rows, in the video!

Pointed bullets and pointed or cutting objects will either part or cut
the aramid materials of the soft armor.

Cheers
Trevor Jones


many years ago when I was playing deputy sherriff...the Second Chance
sales drone put up a panel of kevlar and had everyone take a shot at
it with whatever they happened to be carrying off duty. An astute
fellow mentioned that even a mudflap would deflect a bullet when hung
by the top, so they fastened it to a 6x6 post and had at it
again..beating the hell out of the post...blunt force trauma at its
best.

then i went out to the truck and brought in my bow and a couple arrows
with broadheads and proceeded to nail a double layer of panels to the
post, and finished it off with a common icepick.

The sales droid got a bit red faced at that point.....shrug

never promise what you cant deliver when it comes to life safety gear.

somone may survive and beat you to death with it.

Many of the early vests would be penetrated through and through by a
simple .22 pistol, even though they would stop a .45

30 mauser pistol rounds go through most vests, even today unless they
have chicken plates in it..a round nearly 100 yrs old.


Gunner

at yoyodyne they were all veterans of the psychic wars
exiled from the eighth dimension where the winds of limbo roar"
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