Sorry kid but politicians don't establish tactics.


"dpb" wrote in message ...
sawzdust wrote:
Well as for the War, Rommel was a far better read, and as for insight
and
knowledge I would prefer the Generals and not the politicians!

Well, the politicians are the ones who directed the generals, so you
need to know what they were thinking as well...

...
... Try to Remember Churchill was a Military
failure( Battle of Gallipoli ). He for the most part of his military
career
was only a war correspondent, had poor tactics and his only claim to
fame is
he made great speeches! You read him!

Try to remember Churchill's contribution in WW II was as Prime Minister,
not as active military.

See kid this was about D-Day and the infamy of it~

I suspect I'm at least as old as you...

Just so you know many who served in N.Afrika also fought in Italy.
Afrika's
point is that Americas involvement never had anything to do with the
people
of Europe, we protected our oil interests first and foremost. America
thought US soldiers should die defending oil, not the people of Europe.

No, not really...we intended to stay out entirely. Other than
Lend-Lease, probably would have done so for at least another year except
for Pearl Harbor. At that point, we were in for good or ill and chose
the most expedient way possible to win, given initial ill-preparedeness.
N Africa was first for US land troops only because it was the one
place there was an opportunity w/o certain utter defeat to start.

D-Day was NOT a noble deed~ Simply sacrificing US Sodiers for land!
Anyone
who claims that it was to "save" Europe..... was way to late for that!

It was to fulfill commitment to Stalin to open second front and to close
the war as quickly as possible. If it had been a land grab, it would
have been far more successful politically than it was. It was
deliberate orders to Eisenhower to _not_ progress that led to the final
positions.

Finis.

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The point is... America jumped into War to protect it's oil, all the
time
Hitler ravages Europe (we sit silent) olny then with Russia wining the
war,
we wait until Russia heads for Berlin, then jump in and claim We won!
D-Day
was a slaughter of US Soldiers 1.4 K killed 6K wounded.... 10K+ Soldiers
died that day.




"dpb" wrote in message ...
sawzdust wrote:
... ... I'd skip Churchill.

Then (as is apparent) you'd miss a great deal of context and oversight
of the prosecution of the war.

What does your reading of a soldier's diaries in N Africa say about the
strategic difficulties of the Allies in having promised Stalin a second
front in '42 but not being able to achieve that until mid '44 while the
Russian army was being hammered on the eastern front? Not much, I
would
wager.

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