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Default Safety issue ? -Phonic Power Pod 1062,mixer amp, from 2002

Ron(UK) wrote in message
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Dave wrote in message
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In for switch replacement but owner says he has , sometime back , got

a
shock off the mains lead by touching the earth pin when just unplugged
from
the mains.
I told him probably static discharge rather than anything to do with

mains
,
but explored , just in case.
The large conventional type mains transformer is mounted on a metal

plate
that is held to the wood of the casing by 4 bolts. There is no earth

strap
,
or ever has been , to this plate or transformer frame, so not earthed.

The
4
bolts are exposed through casing on base of the amp. Hum issue if

earth
strap put in place ?

Most consumer-grade amps have two-prong plugs, so what are you going to
earth it to? The ground in such an amp is always relative, often the

CT
on
the power transformer itself or back end of the bridge rectifier, quite
possibly floating a few volts away from earth ground. It must be rare
enough to satisfy regulators that the mains transformer fails open

circuit
but shorted to the case.

If the unit has a three prong plug, I'd say give a ground strap a try

if
you're concerned... most power trannies are bolted onto a metal case,

not
wood, and the case is grounded in the case of a three prong plug.

Ground
loop noise problems would depend quite a lot on the grounding scheme

used
in
the amp, i.e. whether or not power and signal grounds are appropriately
isolated to minimize interference.

Dave


240V , UK use.
There is just the input ground wire to the plate housing the mains fuse
holder. There is no specific bond wire to the main PA just relying on

metal
brackets/spacers and self-tap screws "bonding" back to the inlet plate.


Is there a capacitor strapped across the mains switch, or the input
socket? That would account for the clout he got when touching the mains
plug pins

Ron(UK)


There is a .47uF , 330 V polycarbonate between neutral and live on the amp
side of the mains switch which would self discharge through the transformer
in mS but nothing else except a fuse.


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