on 5/26/2008 2:12 AM mm said the following:
I may have written this before the last time I visited my brother, but
it's worth saying again!

Don't buy a Villeroy and Boch, Magnum model, toilet.

My brother's house has 5 and I can only hope they came with the house
and he didn't get sold this junk when he partially remodeled.

Almost everytime you use it, it has to be cleaned. OTOH, my average
priced Eljers rarely need cleaning, because the water surface in my
Eljers is 3 to 4 times as big as the area in his toilets.

This has afaict nothing to do with the amount needed for flushing.
But since one has to flush it once or twice during cleaning, it still
uses more water than my 30 year-old ones do.

This is something like it:
http://www.villeroy-boch.com/index.p...=62.12845.11.1

In fact, I thought my brother's had the flush button in the middle of
the top, like in the picture (in fact I remember trying to get the lid
off a few years ago, but being stymied by the connection between the
top and the rest), but the four I used this trip all had a lever on
the side. (But the same brand name and model name and the same
failing.)

Lots of fancy words that disguise the fact that it's no good. Who
knows if any of their other models are any good!

Lots of bragging that the company is 260 years old, but no admission
they still make bad products.

And it's 780 dollars!!!! How would any homeowner know in advance that
the thing got dirty every time someone used it? How many people would
demand that the plumber or the general contractor replace them for
free?

It also requires a large, non-standard shaped plastic seat and cover,
which is probably better than the average seat, but probably is hard
to find and costs a fortune. And what to do when they stop making
them?


BTW, I just came across an Eljer toilet designed to go in a corner
that costs only 254 dollars with free shipping. In case you have a
corner.

And Hechinger's still has a website, even though all the stores closed
more than a decade ago!
http://www.hechinger.com/web/catalog...AA760D35E75F36


How come that $254 toilet is priced from $318?
Born in the early 1900s, Hechinger was a retail industry giant with
more than 200 stores across the United States through the late 1990's.
Home Décor Products is proud to announce that customers can now once
again access Hechinger tools and hardware at www.hechinger.com.
Hechinger.com offers power and hand tools, outdoor equipment, building
and remodeling tools, welding and paint supplies and more – all from
leading brand names including Makita, Hitachi, Toro, Stanley Tools,
Wagner, & more.

Very strange. Why bother?



Not a very unbiased Hechinger plug, is it?

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Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
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