On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:35:35 -0400, "Steve W."
wrote:
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Why should they. The banks pay taxes which support the police
departments as well. The problem is that the illegals and squatters have
been given free reign by the democrats and the liberals. Or didn't you
notice that it is liberal run cities that are saying "come here and find
sanctuary".
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From one perspective this is true, however it may be that you are
missing the bigger picture, specifically *WHY* are the illegals
hear requesting "sanctuary" in the first place. This is a
relatively new phenomena [c.1980?], especially on this scale.

My Spanish is not good, but in talking to several of these
undocumented workers with the help of a relative that is fluent,
to a person they don't *WANT* to be here. Consider that it is
expensive and dangerous to make the trip in the first place,
second it involves long separations from your immediate and
extended family, and third, the environment, food, laws, etc. are
strange and the weather cold.

Why then are they here?

While this is not true in every case, the Mexicans, especially
the rural Mexicans, were forced off their small farms by the
ultra cheap corn sold by the international grain trading
companies. Many of the urban Mexicans were small shopkeepers put
out of business by Wal-Mart. In both cases it was immigrate to
the USA and find what work you can or starve along with your
family. Thus most of the Mexican migration is part of the
undocumented and externalized [to the public] cost of NAFTA.

In the case of the undocumented immigrants from Latin American
countries south of Mexico, in many cases it was fear for their
life at the hands of governmental or land-owner "death squads,"
seizure of their small land holdings by the multi-nationals and
"latafundio" [huge low productive estates] land owners, with a
significant number pushed off their lands because of the ultra
cheap subsidized corn and other crops, and many of the urban
dwellers, again displaced by Wal-Mart or their trade was
destroyed when their customers were pauperized.

The immigration from sub-Mexican Latin America is due to two
overlapping causes. (1) Starvation -- because of the
lack/elimination of any gainful employment. This is yet more of
the "externalized" NAFTA costs the public pays while the
trans-nationals reap the profits, and (2) Fear of being murdered
as a "terrorist" as a result of anti-communist crusades
championed by US companies such as ITT, Chiquita, United Fruit,
etc. when the local host countries began to demand that they pay
reasonable taxes on the land they owned and the profits they
made, e.g. Guatemala, El Salvador, Columbia, Nicaragua, Chile,
Peru, etc.

Make no mistake about it -- these [and several other] countries
engaged in genocide on a massive scale, with large numbers of
their Indian populations "liquidated" because they were perceived
to be "troublemakers" because they complained about being kicked
off their ancestral lands, their timber being clear cut, or being
poisoned by the drilling, mining, etc. all with no royalties
payments. Where the indigenous population was extinct, large
numbers of the lower class were "liquidated," for example
Argentina.

FWIW -- In most cases, the farmers and farm laborers forced from
their countries tend to be of Indian rather than Spanish descent,
and may speak limited Spanish.

Therefore, the problem, when analyzed in depth, is that the
"illegals" are here, not because the want to be here, but because
they were forced from their home country by reasons of
"predatory/exploitative economics" and/or "state sponsored [or at
least condoned] terrorism," largely due to *EXTERNAL forces over
which they have no control, many of which unfortunately appear to
originate in the US from US domiciled trans-national
corporations.

Frankly, it appears that supplying Subcomandante Insurgente
Marcos in Chiapias with 1,000 AKs and ample ammunition will do
far more to correct the immigration problem, by eliminating the
root causes, than 100 times the same amount of money spent on a
border fence (to be constructed with undocumented workers).
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-15405372.html
http://www.independence.net/home/chiapas.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subcomandante_Marcos


Unka' George [George McDuffee]
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He that will not apply new remedies,
must expect new evils:
for Time is the greatest innovator: and
if Time, of course, alter things to the worse,
and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better,
what shall be the end?

Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman.
Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625).