"Hawke" wrote in message
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"Shabtai Evan" wrote in message
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The value of unions has greatly diminished over the decades. There was a
time and a place in history for them. The currently existing unions
typically hinder productivity for employees, companies, schools, and the
USA. Outsourcing and Unions have cost us, my children, and my
children's children a to much.
Just look at the state of the California schools, the automotive, steel,
and airline industries.


Funny that you would look at those industries and conclude that the reason
for their problems stems from unions. Any unbiased and critical look at each
of those you mentioned will show that each of them has unique challenges and
problems. It will also show that the fact that those industries have unions
has little or nothing to do with what's ailing them. But then if you start
with the assumption that unions are bad it's not really a surprise that you
wind up blaming them for everything. That has been a favorite tactic of
company management ever since unions were legalized. If you are not a
businessman or part of company management then that would be a surprise for
you to have that anti union view. But then, ever since Reagan many ordinary
working class whites have blamed unions for their problems when in reality
all unions ever did for the working class was to help it. Which is something
you can't say about management.

Hawke



It's not that unions are good or bad, it's that they are seriously flawed in
concept. In Japan, unions actually function to better the lives of the
employees AND better the position of the company within it's market. There
exists a high degree of cooperation. Here in the US, unions have a reputation
of corruption, hindrance to productivity and low value returned for dues levied
on employees. The bad thing is that unions could be a good thing but choose not
to change their structure and methods...that's why they are diminishing. I USE
the union in my place to actually accomplish things. It took a long time to get
them on a new paradigm and shed the '50s mentality.