"Hawke" wrote in message
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"Shabtai Evan" wrote in message
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The value of unions has greatly diminished over the decades. There was a
time and a place in history for them. The currently existing unions
typically hinder productivity for employees, companies, schools, and the
USA. Outsourcing and Unions have cost us, my children, and my
children's children a to much.
Just look at the state of the California schools, the automotive, steel,
and airline industries.


Funny that you would look at those industries and conclude that the reason
for their problems stems from unions. Any unbiased and critical look at
each
of those you mentioned will show that each of them has unique challenges
and
problems. It will also show that the fact that those industries have
unions
has little or nothing to do with what's ailing them. But then if you start
with the assumption that unions are bad it's not really a surprise that
you
wind up blaming them for everything. That has been a favorite tactic of
company management ever since unions were legalized. If you are not a
businessman or part of company management then that would be a surprise
for
you to have that anti union view. But then, ever since Reagan many
ordinary
working class whites have blamed unions for their problems when in reality
all unions ever did for the working class was to help it. Which is
something
you can't say about management.

Hawke





http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/mcwane/

turns out you can watch the entire episode on-line.

when i read shabtai evan's post i thought "..unions hinder productivity.."
huh. unlike how productivity is raised in the conditions at places like
mcwane. work fast and hard (and get crushed by a truck) or be safe and
reduce productivity. i guess it depends on where you stand which is the
more desirable result.