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Mike Dobony[_3_]

Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
wrote:
And your baseless claim somehow makes it not staged? Of course it doesn't.
It was quite obviously staged for some pictures to put on the internet.
Next up is idiots like you claiming it's ok to do it.
Well, I did *not* say it was "ok to do it". I certainly
would not recommend that *you* try it! :-)
Excuse me but, yes you did say it was OK when you posted this:

"Not a problem. (Actually, I've set up something fairly
similar to that, and been in the water.)

There is no circuit path through the water, or through any person
in the water (unless you're dumb enough to go up there and grab onto
a wet wire). "

Nothing there says anything about it being "ok to do it" for dummies.

As Clark has pointed out to you, there are many possible paths for
current flow that could kill someone if they do this.

He hasn't pointed out one yet. He *has* demonstrated
that he doesn't understand circuits though.

People
typically get in a pool like this one leg at a time. That gives you
one foot on earth, one in the pool. Or someone standing outside the
pool could hand a person in the pool another beer can, completing a
path. Or someone in the pool could reach out and touch some metal
outside the pool that is earthed.

You finally hit one that probably would be dangerous.
Grabbing onto a grounded metal object would not be a
smart thing to do.

All of the above would give a dangerous situation if the cord was
actually plugged in and in contact with the water.

Any of those together with the hot
being in contact with the pool water could give you enough current to
kill someone, depending on how close the person was to the hot lead
that was in contact with water, how much surface area was involved,
etc.

A rather large bit of "depends"...

The fact that you set up this kind of thing and got in the water
speaks volumes. Maybe you want to take these kinds of risks, but that
doesn't make it "OK" I'd submit that if someone set up what was
pictured and encouraged people to get in or told them it was OK and it
resulted in a fatality, they may very well face criminal charges.

And if it didn't, they wouldn't.

The risk would be much greater that you'll die in a car
accident from home to this place, or heading back home
afterwards.

Does that make the person who invited you a criminal too?