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On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 11:51:41 -0800 (PST),
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Thanks again for the info. This gives me another possible scenario for
why I toasted the solenoid.

I was 'driving' the gate with 5V+ a resistor and a switch. I didn't
have a pulldown resistor. I gather that it may be possible that the
field still existed on the gate even after I opened the switch.


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Not just possible, that's exactly what happened. :-(
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So I
guess with a pull down resistor on the gate I'd be more safe.


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Of course.
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What do you think?


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Since you're driving the 12V, 100% duty cycle coil with 24V, that
mandates a 25% (or lower) duty cycle so, assuming it's going to be
working 100% of the time, I think a good idea would be to drive it
with something like a 555 wired like this:

+24----------------------------------------+
|
VCC--+--------------------------------+ |
| | +------+
[20k]R1 +---------+ | | |K
| |_ | | [COIL] [1N4001]
+-------------7-O|D Vcc|-8---+ | |
| R2 | _| | +------+
+---[82k]---+--6-|TH R|O-4--+ |
| | |__ | | D
+-[1N4148]-+-2-O|TR OUT|-3---|--G NCH
| | GND | | S
[C] +----+----+ [0.1µF] |
| |1 | |
GND--------------+---------+----------+----+

Note that a pot can be substituted for R1 and R2, so you can adjust
the frequency, as required, to accommodate the inductance of the
coil, by choosing the end-to-end resistance of the pot and then
choosing the duty cycle by cranking the pot.

Also, if you can't find a pot with the end-to-end resistance you
need, you can always do this:


V---+
|
[R1]
|
[POT]--
|
[R2]
|
GND--+

Since we don't know the inductance of the coil it's impossible to
determine the pulse repetition frequency but, assuming it's 100
millihenrys:

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JF