"Mark Rand" wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 17:12:15 -0700, Tim May
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In article , Mark Rand
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:07:22 -0700, Tim May

wrote:



Speaking of the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, taking money from
the citizens to hand out to others, for whatever noble reason, was
precisely what Sen. David Crockett was talking about in his famous
speech.

Saying money is "taken illegally" is reflecting this usage, that the
taking of money to give to others is NOT A POWER GOVERNMENT HAS,
according to the U.S. Constitution.

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Do you pay, personally, for every mile of road that you travel on?

Nitwit. Roads and national defense, and a very few other such things,
are what government is constitutionally mandated to provide for. (In
the U.S., we are talking about, as the quotes above make clear.)

The issue is taking money from some people to give to others, for the
purposes of charity.

Nitwit.

--Tim May


Section 8, clause 1 of your constitution states:-
"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts
and
Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general
Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be
uniform throughout the United States;"

The phrase "and general Welfare of the United States" implies "taking
money
from some people to give to others". Charity is a completely different
concept. You may engage in charity as well as paying your taxes if you
wish,
but don't mither about what your government does legally with your taxes.



Any nation having a substantial percentage of it's population subject to
relative abject poverty, starvation, or even death from cureable disease
while relatively inexpensive remedial solutions exist is not providing for
it's general welfare.

As such, there will always be subject to disagreement a point where general
welfare can arguably be viewed as charity.

--

SVL