Trevor Jones wrote:
Tom wrote:

Trevor Jones wrote:

Tom wrote:

Trevor Jones wrote:

Tom wrote:

Louis Ohland wrote:

Trevor, just kidding!

I'm looking now at making a breech block for a Stevens 22LR. Or
bushing the firing pin on a .38-55 Winchester 1987 Musket (Model
1885 with different stock...)

I have a healthy respect for the power of confined powder..

For pressure bearing parts, isn't 4140 a good bet?

Trevor Jones wrote:

Louis Ohland wrote:

Says it all. What grades are suitable for what applications?
Grab that 1.25" round of 1018 and make my own action...








What kind of action? What type of cartridges? What kind of
finish do you want on it when you are done?

Not enough information provided Louis, as there are too many
variables.

Best bet is to read what the makers of similar actions are using.

Suitable for a stainless bolt action is not suitable for a
color case hardened black powder receiver, etc.

Whatcha hankerin to make?

Cheers
Trevor Jones

Louis
Could you clarify those Winchester models, please?

Tom






Model 87 Winchester was a Military type trainer based on the 1885
actions.

Most that I see referenced in the books, were .22 cal.

I have the 2 Campbell books on the 1885 single shots. The general
gist is that just about anything you wanted, could be got from the
factory, if you were willing to pay. But it's been a long time.

"Factory" letters are available for the Winchester rifles, from
the Cody Museum, if ya didn't know.

A rebarell?

Cheers
Trevor Jones

Well, Trevor I've got more than a few Winchesters and all of my
Model 1887s
are lever action shotguns and my muskets are either 1885 or 1895.

Tom




Winchester listed it as a model 87. shrug Good enough for me.
http://books.google.com/books?id=T-I...c6jeAt52WGmIt0


The part of the book quoted above spells it out fairly well, I suppose.

I think it serves as a better researched answer than the Wiki one
that told the guy that he did not know what he was talking about with
his own gun, anyway.
If it had another model number, I am pretty sure that Mr. Campbell
would have used the designation in his books, given the amount of
time he has spent in the game.

Cheers
Trevor Jones

LOL
How come it isn't listed in the index of the same book?
Yet the M87 shotgun is.

Tom


Ask the author. If this is the first index provided in a book that was
less than complete, it would be a surprise to me.

You think the author and editors would have made the same mistake here
given their credentials, read the preface:

http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/...rm1887-m87.jpg

All he had to say about it was that the model was arbitrarily assigned.
And that it should not have been, as it conflicted with the designation
given the shotgun. I do not have a copy, so I cannot cite his references.

Actually, he is quoting previous editions, however, he says more than that
but you refuse the implications.
Just when did they arbitrarily "list" the musket as the M87? How many muskets
had been made before this was instigated? By your reasoning do all muskets built
prior to this arbitrary renaming become M87s by default?
Listing the musket in catalogues as the M87 did not mean necessarily, they were
marked as such.

Cheers
Trevor Jones


Tom