On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:43:06 -0700, Tim May
wrote:

In article , Bob Brock
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:19:00 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 15:22:46 -0700, Tim May
wrote:

You mean the Veteran's Administration is responsible for the $400,000
bill he says his wife (or what he sometimes calls his "ex-wife") ran
up?

Nope..she is responsible for that. I only provide a place for her to
live. In return, she keeps my home in somewhat good order and takes
care of my critters. Period. We are still separated in actual fact.

If you are living together, it would appear that you are living
together.

And I can't find a comment (or a public record, though the Net is
notorious for not having most such records yet on file) that they
actually obtained a formal (legal) divorce. Gunner (Mark Wieber, for
the purposes of searching for records) described in detail how his wife
left in 1976 to live with some guy named Carl Wyatt, how they partied
and caroused and how she got pregnant and how Gunner then took her
back. And how she went to another guy, and some women, and another guy,
and Carl again, and then how she drained his remaining assets.

But nowhere do I find a clear statement that she and Gunner were
legally divorced.

Which, if they were not divorced (or if her co-residence with him was
long enough to constitute a common law marriage), then in fact Gunner
is also responsible for her medical bills as well (which Gunner says
are about $400,000).

I have ended relationships for situations which are about 150 times
less bad than what Gunner described happened first in 1976 and then
many times later. It's clear his wife/ex-wife/whatever treated him like
a toilet and that he put up with it. Weird.


Furthermore, she is disabled for life, unfortunately and is unable to
provide for herself financially. She is considered by the State to be
indigent, and indigent for life. If you don't like the States terms
or criteria..please feel free to change the rules by which she is
subject.

Sounds like government tit to me.

Yep. Even while Gunner was writing dozens of rants a week (someone said
he averaged 30 posts per day for the past year, but I haven't checked
this out) about the evils of socialism and the moral principles of not
taking other people's money, his wife was consuming $400,000 in
taxpayer-paid medical care and is (probably) now collecting a monthly
disability check...it may be what Gunner is living on.


As to my compassion for her condition..deal with it. While I
understand that compassion is an alien word to you..its something that
most humans have.

Compassion? Sounds like the government tit to me.


She never used drugs (though where you got that from, or why you keep
bringing that lie up escapes me).

Gunner spoke of his methamphetamine-using son (Richard, by the father
Carl Wyatt) and of his wife's partying binges in the mid-70s and later.
With the talk of group sex, partying, multiple boyfriends,
methamphetamines, etc., I think it's _reasonable_ (in fact, I would put
the odds at 99.9%) to assume the wife was doing her share of what was
common in that environment in the mid-70s and into the Things Go Better
with Coke era.

But I will no longer cite her as a druggie, though her son certainly
was. A slut, for sure. A slut who treated Gunner as a toilet,
definately.

Here's one quote from (misc.survivalism, 2000-06-21):

"1976 Wife gets bored. Takes credit card, and spends 3 days partying,
and meets new fellow. (Carl Wyatt). Affair lasts 5 months.. at which
point she finds she's pregnant. Husband (me) boots her ass out when
finding out she is pregnant with another mans child, and maxing the
credit card out on motel rooms, booze and room service (He was married,
so she paid for the room..or rather, I did)

"In her 9th month of pregnancy.. she shows up, belly out to there, and
asks to come home until the baby is born. Two weeks later, I hold her
hand in the delivery room, then sign the birth certificate with my name
as the father.

"snip 6 years of financial fiascos and 2 surgerys for the boy...no
insurance)

"She gets bored again.. has an affair with Carl for 4 months before I
find out. The she has an affair with Al Quatroche for 3 months where
she explores her sexuality, in group sex, bi sex etc. I sit home, baby
sitting. She then apparently tired of all the fun and games (the boy
friends got tired of her and sent her home) and came home declaring
undying love. I of course, take her in.

"snip 7 years of financial fiascos climaxed by 4 surgeries for boy,
loss of kidney to birth defect uncaught by doctors. No insurance)

"Year unknown. Wife gets bored once again... Locates and proceeds to
have a 5
...."

(rest not included...too depressing, even for me)


So Gunner has had some problems and heartache... so gunner showed
compassion to a woman who was thoughtless, screwed up and out of
controll.. so Gunner showed kindness to some ******* kid that you
would have aborted and flushed down the toilet... So Gunner made some
bad decisions.... or did he?

Has Tim May ever made bad decision, showed compassion or done anything
for anyone who didn't deserve it?

Every helped someone who didn't deserve help Tim..

Every throw a quarter to some homeless girl or guy on the street...?

Ever pick up a stray dog and take it in...?

Ever done anything but kiss your own big fat ass??

If you wait long enough.. old Gunner will go down again.. then you can
dredge up all the stupid things he has done.. remind everybody how
screwed up his life has been..all the mistakes he has made... but
always include showing compassion to that litle kid.. that you would
have flushed down the toilet...a nd that woman who came to him out of
desperation... and Gunner helped...

Lets see.. in a tight spot.. screw up.. lost.. helpless...??

I had rather know a guy like Gunner over a Tim May.. any day


Mike

The Lord created all things. Then on His day of rest,
from the mouth of an ass he made Tim May. And He sent
Tim out of the Garden saying: Go forth and prove
your hardness and depravity with many words and much noise.