On Dec 20, 3:11 pm, wrote:
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:07:13 -0800 (PST), Joe wrote:

wrote:
My apartment ceiling remodel has ground to a halt. The contractor
discovered that there are no wood studs above my horsehair plaster and
steel lathe ceiling (circa 1895), only metal and concrete. (The
building was originally a hotel.) He thought (eronneously) that he'd
be able to screw 5/8" drywall directly to the plaster and that it
would hold. The city inspector thought otherwise, and advised that we
hire and architect to design framing to support the drywall.

BUT, I was wondering, can 1/4" or 3/8" drywall (because of its much
lighter weight) be scewed directly into the horsehair paster and steel
lathe ceiling without falling down, if it is not screwed into any
studs? I've done a test by screwing a drywall screw into the plaster
(which is about an inch thick), and it holds very well. It's only
when you rock it from side to side with a good amount of force, using
the extractor-side of a hammer, that the plaster starts to crumble and
the screw falls out.

So, which do you think would be the better/cheaper/safer option,
framing and then attaching 5/8" drywall to the frame, or somehow
fastening thinner drywall directly to the plaster ceiling?

Neither or none of the above, Given that problem I would call in an
old fashioned plastering contractor and have the ceiling redone to
whatever specs you want. Think of the advantages, a skim coat and a
few repairs will be very light weight, it won't support mold, it will
look better than drywall (think butt joints, the drywall ceiling
curse), your inspector will love it, and you may very well save money.
Whatever you use on the walls, at the ceiling interface there will
probably be crown molding, so that is not an issue. HTH

Joe

I was thinking the same thing. Just fix the plaster and be done with
it.

OR

Install a suspended grid ceiling, but the hangers will need to be
concrete anchors drilled thru the plaster and into the concrete.

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Couldn't I just attached 1x3s to the outside edge of the ceiling using
heavy duty toggle bolts or very coarse screws that will grab into the
metal mesh (and then do the same at regular intervals across the
ceiling) and then attach the drywall to to the 1x3s?