Hello, The!
You wrote on Sat, 19 Jun 2004 09:57:54 -0700:

Where'a america to stop these slaughters? Oh yeah I forgot - there's no oil!
and there's too much potential corporate profit in China! Can't hit the
Chinese, who's gonna make Nikes and just about all else you yanks consume.

TI Alan Connor wrote:
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?? On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 06:00:13 -0700, The Independent
?? wrote:
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?? Alan Connor wrote:
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?? On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 07:06:16 GMT, Gunner
?? wrote:
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?? Welcome back, Gunner.
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?? I had no doubt at all.
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?? Nor do I see any need to coddle a tough son-of-a-bitch like you:
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?? That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or
?? labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see
?? that it stays there. - George Orwell
??
?? No. Rifles are the symbol of brutal conquest, which is just a fancy
?? term for armed robbery on a large scale.
??
?? Ballot boxes are the symbol of democracy.
??
?? There are a WHOLE lot of people with a LOT of weapons that
?? don't have any democracy...Not a ballot box in sight.
??
?? Duh.
??
?? :-)
??
?? Does America's violence around the world create democracy? Try
?? this little quizz:
??
?? It consists of one (1) multiple-choice question. Here's a list of
?? the countries that the U.S. has bombed since the end of World War
?? II, compiled by historian William Blum: 1. China 1945-46 2. Korea
?? and China 1950-53 3. Guatemala 1954 4. Indonesia 1958 5. Cuba
?? 1959-1961 6. Guatemala 1960 7. Congo 1964 8. Peru 1965 9. Laos
?? 1964-73 10. Vietnam 1961-73 11. Cambodia 1969-70 12. Guatemala
?? 1967-69 13. Grenada 1983 14. Lebanon 1983, 1984 15. Libya 1986 16.
?? El Salvador 1980s 17. Nicaragua 1980s 18. Iran 1987 19. Panama 1989
?? 20. Iraq 1991-2003 21. Kuwait 1991 22. Somalia 1993 23. Bosnia 1994,
?? 1995 24. Sudan 1998 25. Afghanistan 1998, 2001-2004 26. Yugoslavia
?? 1999 27. Iraq 2002-2004 Q: In how many of these instances did a
?? democratic government, respectful of human rights, occur as a direct
?? result? Choose one of the following: (a) 0 (b) zero (c) none (d) not
?? a one (e) a whole number between -1 and +1 (f) zip (g) squat (h)
?? nada
?? (i) who cares?
??
?? AC
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?? The object is to stomp them so hard the first time that they wont
?? want to mess with us again. Fear is the best motivate, ask a Zebra
?? running from a lion.
??
?? Better yet, visit Israel, where they follow your strategy assidiously.
??
?? Wonderful place: Frightened and angry youths with automatic weapons on
?? every corner and not a safe place in the entire country. They also
?? have a military that is immensely superior to that posessed by their
?? enemies and have killed at least 10 of them for every
?? Israeli casualty. Yet they have no peace and no security. You can talk
?? to zebras if you want. I prefer to observe human behavior and its
?? results and draw my conclusions from those observations. AC

TI The problem is the Israelis haven't got over their own trauma of the
TI holocaust. If they would just slaughter 20 million or so rag heads
TI they wouldn't have any problems.

TI And if you think the world is going to say any thing, think again.
TI Where was the world when Lenin slaughtered the 10 million or so in
TI Russia?
TI Where was the world when Stalin slaughtered 22 million or so in Russia?
TI Where was the world when the turks slaughtered 6 million Armenians?
TI Where was the world when Mao, slaughtered 80 to 90 million in China?
TI *As many as 20,000 to as high as 50,000 are still being killed annually
TI in communist China today.
TI Where was the world when Ho Chi Minh took over S.E. Asia in 1954 and
TI killed another 2 million or so?
TI Where was the world when Castro slaughtered 500,000 out of population
TI of 6 million in Cuba? (and its still going on today)
TI Where was the world when Daniel and Umberto Ortega slaughter 250,000 in
TI Nicaragua? (Until Ronald Reagons contras drove them from power and they
TI had to settle for a democratic election which they couldn't rig and
TI Violetta Chamoro won hands down.
TI Where was the world when Pol Pot Slaughtered 2 million in Cambodia?
TI Where was the world when Idi Amin Slaughtered 1/3 million in Uganda?
TI Where was the world when for the 50 years of rape, cannibalism, and
TI slaughter in the congo that may have killed as many as 15 million?
TI (500,000 were killed between 1998 and 2002 alone)
TI Where was the world when the Huttus slaughtered 2 million Tutsies in
TI Rwanda?
TI Where was the world when Robert Mugabe killed 2 million in Zimbaube
TI and is sill killing 20,000 to 30,000 a year?
TI Where was the world when the Islamic Indonesians were Slaughtering a
TI million Christians in East Timor?
TI Where is the world when the Islamic Sudanese have slaughtered 2 million
TI Christians and enslaved (yes there is modern slavery) in the Sudan?
TI The we have the slaughter of innocent civilians in Lebanon, Bosnia,
TI Chechnia.

TI Hate to break it to you Alan but 99.5% of the slaughter of innocent
TI Civilians in the world since 1900, has had nothing to do with the
TI United States.

TI The Independent of Clackamas County, Oregon

TI "The great questions of the day will not be settled by means of
TI speeches and majority decisions ... but by iron and blood."


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