NapalmHeart wrote:
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Note that I am not in favour of our current gun legislation. I
think
it has done little or nothing to make us safer and has succeeded
primarily in affecting sport shooting only. Nor, in fact, am I
totally
unsympathetic to the left-pondian gun-lobby. However, I do not
think
that an impartial observer can ignore the fact that those nations
that
are awash with guns have more gun crime.

Is that a cause or an effect? A Christian country tends to have
more churches than a Muslim one. I'm willing to bet that the UK has
a larger percentage of people beaten with cricket bats than the US.
What does that mean?


It means that you have as usual no idea what you are talking about,.

A cricket bat is and expensive specialised tool, and useless for
beating up people with.

Only a Septic would eben think of using it thus.

Sorry didn't mean to go over your head. Let try to make it a little
more simple. Are people more violent because they have weapons or are
do people have weapons because they are violent?

IOW, if I take a peaceful law abiding person and put a handgun in his
hand is he suddenly going to go out and start shooting people?



Look at North America. You have Canada with very strict gun control
and very little gun crime. You have USA with less gun control and
more gun crime. Then you have Mexico with its draconian gun conrol
laws but with all kinds of gun crime. Why doesn't your logic work?
IMO, its because its not so much the laws but the people living
under the laws.


And teh pople selling them the guns...

Huh? I point a failure of logic and you make a statement that makes
no sense.



You can break it down ever farther. In the US some states (and even
counties and cities) have very strict gun control laws and others
have very lax laws. California is a state in the strict group and
yet LA is a city "awash" in gun crime. On the other hand Vermont
has some, if not the most, lax gun laws in the US (anyone over 21
w/o a criminal record may carry a handgun, openly or concealed).
Using your logic Vermont should be a very dangerous place to live
but in fact it is one of the safest.

More evidence that your logic is flawed is in Europe. Its the often
brought out Switzerland. You want to talk about a country awash
with guns!! Almost everyone knows that the Swiss are among the most
armed people in the world with a military rifle and ammo in almost
every household. I don't remember reading anything about the latest
shootings there.


You haven't been reading very hard then.

Can you read?

Or is it all just spoon fed from FoxNews?

So there is blood flowing in the streets in Switzerland? How about in
Vermont? Can you post the news reports showing this? I guess google
news, the BBC, newsday and the other news sites I read daily have
missed all of these.


I went shopping last night with a Glock 23 on my hip and under my coat.
No one else knew and surprisingly, no one was shot. If the Eurotards
were right it would have overpowered my cerebral cortex, forced its way
into my hand, and caused me to commit mass-murder.



Take a gun to the mall? Sounds chicken**** to me, what do you take to a
real scary open place like
a playground, a bazooka?