J. Clarke wrote:

I'm not a Christian either, so I don't see what that has to do with
this.

You must realize that not all laws are just, eh? Legalized slavery
in the US was never just, although it was legal.

So if you are not a Christian then what is your basis for the
allegation that abortion is wrong?


I object strongly to the use of force in this regard. What could be
more anti-choice than forcing a woman to have an abortion? For some
reason you keyed in on the word abortion in my post and missed the far
more important word FORCED.

I don't buy the simple minded cultural relativism arguments at all.
Some things are simply wrong. Infant sacrifice to appease the gods, for
example. I could care less if a given culture has practiced it for
thousands of years and if the practice is codified in law. It is still
wrong. Ditto for slavery.

As far as China goes, the fact that something is lawful or unlawful
doesn't have much moral standing at all. China has never had a
democratic government and it's laws are enacted and enforced by a
government which at it's root is a military dictatorship. Thus any
argument for something being ok in the context of China because of
China's laws of the moment has no principled foundation. You don't even
know that a given law expresses the majority view of the "culture"
because said law is enacted without any hint of even the consent of the
majority.

John