On Nov 3, 9:08 pm, Harry K wrote:
On Nov 3, 1:27 pm, wrote:



On Nov 3, 11:50 am, Harry K wrote:

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On Nov 3, 9:38 am, Harry K wrote:

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On Nov 2, 8:55 pm, Harry K wrote:

On Nov 2, 5:13 pm, wrote:

On Nov 2, 12:30 pm, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:38:01 -0700, Harry K
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On Nov 1, 12:20 pm, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:21:29 -0700, Harry K
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Strange. Science has given us all the modern conveniences. Just what
has religion given us other than constant wars about it?. Just to
cite one field. I will take science's medical knowledge over the
'pray to be cured' any day. I wonder just how far more advanced we
would be were it not for reliegion trying to hold back, and in some
cases outright ban, scietific discoveries.

I have a poster at home, where the left half is labeled "Science
Discoveries", and contains a long list of things like anthrax vaccine,
Brownian motion, and X-rays. The other side is labeled "Creation
Science Discoveries" and is otherwise blank.

As for the 'atheism is a religion'? Give me a break! You have to
believe in something for a religion. Show where we 'believe in
something', conduct rituals, mouth meaningless phrases, pray to
something... then your juvenile complaint will have some foundation.

People will do anything to justify their delusions.

Oh, man is an ape - deal with it.

Of course.

Once I remember hearing how a normal human has approximately the SAME
number of body hairs all over as a chimpanzee of the same size. The
hairs are just thinner, and so less noticeable.

Harry K

BTW, I did not say I knew that "God does not exist" when I was 5. I
said I recognized bull****. That's quite different.

Yep. When I was old enough to recognize the BS in the bible was the
day I began to retreat from religion. Anyone who can read just
Genesis and 'believe it' needs a brain transplant.

Harry K

I had a somewhat different past. I never got to retreat from religion,
since I was never there.

Actually at the age of 5, I didn't think anyone could take such
nonsense seriously.

I wouldn't have read the Bible then (it's NOT a children's book).
That doesn't mean I couldn't recognize spoken BS.

Most likely that (Christianity) was some sort of game (fantasy
role-playing game?) I didn't understand. I never thought I knew
everything, so that wasn't a problem. Several years later, I was
surprised to find that some people seemed to actually take it
seriously.

The story I put on my website
(http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com/a.../bull****.html) is the
first 2 chapters of Genesis with some word substitution (leaving in
the weird grammatical stuff of the original). When I got to the 4th
word, what to substitute seemed obvious. The other substitutions
needed to be consistent with that.

I was going to do more, but the source material was getting boring.

This sort of humor does tend to make this stuff a bit more tolerable.
--
53 days until the winter solstice celebration

Mark Lloydhttp://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"All your western theologies, the whole mythology of them,
are based on the concept of God as a senile delinquent."
-- Tennessee Williams

The unbelievers do believe in a god...themselves.
I think they believe they are unlovable and alienate themselves in a
cerebral prison they have constructed.
The true thinkers (Einstein perhaps) would not stoop to name
calling...they would benevolently leave us no-minders happy in our own
beliefs.
(and definitely NOT capitalize...to make a "point")

May you come to know the Truth...and He will set you free.- Hide quoted text -

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The cry of the 'true believer' "Come, join us, be brain washed like
we are" but always be sure to "bring money".

I'll try a question. After 'ye floode', where did the water go?

Harry K

The Old Testament is a basis or guideline...the Gospels are the "Good
News".

There is nothing brain washed about it...there is just an acceptance
and trust.

You characters speak of the worst in every instance...instead of the
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Hope for what? Acceptance that there is no afterlife does not
connotate hoplessness. I have lived amongst the 'true believers' (how
do you know you have the 'one true religions BTW?) all my life. My
hopes and dreams have pretty much came to pass. So have my neighbors
and oddly enough their 'hopes' mirror mine almost exaclty. That I
don't expect anafterlife and they do has nothing to do with 'hopes'
except in that one, very narrow, item.

I realize that for you the thought of not going on is extremely
frightening but you will just have to deal with it.

Harry K

There is always hope for you...all is not lost...May God Bless you and
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Take your sanctimonious atitude and put it where it will do you some
good.

Harry K

It has done me some good...and probably you also. : )- Hide quoted text -

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You might note that, due to you, the thread went side ways. You asked
a question, I answered it and in return got sanctimonious BS. You
didn't do what a civilised person would. Namely either repley to the
point or ignore it. Instead you did the usual 'born again' crap.

You are correct. It did do me a lot of good calling you on it in the
first one, and does me even more good pointing out your flaws in this
one.

Harry K

I am human...I am flawed! Woe is me! You need a life other than
usenet. In fact you need an after-life!