On Oct 26, 8:03 pm, janrom wrote:
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:03:39 -0700, DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Oct 26, 3:49 pm, h wrote:

-- The OP just doesn't get it.

Or doesn't want to.

Every forum has trolls giving useless advice and irrelevant answers
yet belittle others to boost their own miserable self-esteem and
worth. This group is no exception.

This is a simple Q & A, what is so difficult about it?

Pay attention!

Q:
"I wonder if it is possible to complete this transaction with minimal
risk in case this seller is unscrupulous."

A:
i) seller issues an itemized invoice (product description, qty, part
#,...)
ii) purchaser notifies CC issuer of impending transaction, forwards
invoice to CC cust. serv. & gets authoriz'n

Now this is pretty ass backwards to begin with. Since when does a
purchaser call up the credit card company and forward an invoice to
them? They'd laugh at you. And why would the credit card company
want to look at an invoice from a company THAT DOES NOT TAKE CREDIT
CARDS?


iii) CC iss'r notifies PayPal of transaction in progress

No, Paypal just submits your credit card info to the credit card
company when you tell them to charge X dollars on your credit card and
send it to . It's approved/disapproved in a few secs.



iv) payPal confirms trans'n, notifies seller, flags the trans'n &
holds funds
v) seller ships
vi) product lands
vii)
if (product = invoice) then
purchaser accepts
paypal remits funds in full to seller
elseif (product not= invoice) then
purchaser not accept
product shipped back @ seller's expense
CC charge reversed
elsif (product = invoice) & (purchaser = buyer's remorse)
product shipped back @ purchaser's expense
CC charge reversed minus shipping
endif

Those who said the answer is not to pay upfront or walk away get
partial marks for being partially correct. All others get an 'F' for
not answering the question or being just plain wrong. Good bye.



You get an even bigger F. Paypal is pretty much an electronic
service, it's not like they have hundreds of people around to hand
hold invoices and get mixed up in all this crap. They do electronic
transactions through a server. What you are proposing, is essentially
an escrow service, which AFAIK, Paypal does not provide. If they do,
I'd like to see a reference.

Now there are escrow services the guy could use in conjuction with an
Ebay purchase. But that involves figuring out how you do that,
which service is not a fraud, and also assumes the seller will agree
to it. Most won't because it complicates the process and they don;'t
get paid quickly.