A co-worker had a problem with someone once, and had talked the guy into
giving him a small token refund by check. He had to go to court to get
a judgment, but I believed he skipped the "forms of discovery" because
he already knew the guys checking account number (and bank) from the
check. He said the guy was surprised when the money was removed from
his account.

Vince


John Hofstad-Parkhill wrote:

It would be interesting to me to see what, if any, real actions can be taken
that provide any fruits.

I had a related experience with an outfit called "cyclone motors" for my CNC
mill/drill project. I have finally received most of the equipment, literally
all that he can deliver, and have to leave it at that.

My neighbor's situation is on topic as well. He purchased some furniture
from Pinecraft here in St. Louis Park, as he and I both believe in trying to
give the local business the shot. Paid for up front. Never delivered. This
was approximately a year ago. He went to court, won a judgement. Done deal?
Hardly. This guy knows how to play. He's even been featured on the local TV
channel 5 Investigates. Another lady, with the same sad story. He gave the
same song and dance, some bull about "minimum orders". It was never clear,
even after promises on TV that he came through for her, and definately has
not come through with my good friend & neighbor. Once the judgement was
handed down, you have to fill out forms of discovery (where does he bank?)
of course it's an empty account. He can have the sheriff's office sieze his
car, but it will cost $500 to do that, that might be recoverable. He can
have the sheriff come in and sieze the cash drawer, but how much will be in
the till? Frankly, I'd rather picket the guy.

It just seems a shame that the real, true & clear victims have no real
recourse. Something is broken.

Best of luck.