On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 01:05:57 -0700, Bruce L. Bergman
wrote:

On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 21:16:10 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:
On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 00:44:39 -0700, Bruce L. Bergman
wrote:

But AFAIK you can't neutralize brake fluid, and it's still going to
give the folks at the regional sewer plant a headache when that slug
of contaminated sewage comes through. And if you hose the effluent
into a storm drain you're going to cause a world of hurt to the
critters that live in that creek.

Bruce..sewer? Creek? This is Taft, one of the armpits of the world.

We have creeks...called "oil ditches"

Thank you, Mr. Haney. ;-)

Just because you're still stuck in the 18th century where "Petticoat
Junction" and "Green Acres" are considered non-fiction ;-P doesn't
mean that the chemicals are suddenly rendered harmless - you still
have to think about the repercussions of seemingly innocent actions.

If the brake fluid or stripper wastes go into a septic tank system
and leach field, it ends up in the ground water eventually - and that
ground water works it's way to a well and turns into drinking water in
a year or three of percolation...

That is, if the chemicals don't have to get pumped out with the rest
of the s*** when your septic tank bacteria die from the chemicals. (Or
they go on strike for better working conditions, same difference.)

Then the local Honey Dipper has to come by with the vacuum truck and
pump out the septic tank, and those chemicals will /still/ end up
dumped into a regional sewer plant for processing.

If the storm runoff water goes into an "oil ditch" instead of a
lined storm drain system, it either makes it to a river and out to the
sea, or it will stop and soak into the ground along the way - and
again it's in the ground water. And all the wildlife that lives along
that ditch won't appreciate what you did to their drinking water.

-- Bruce --


Bruce...they call it an "oil ditch" because oil runs in it. In this
case...about 10 miles long and then winds up in an "oil sump"...about
the size of Delaware ...G. Along with every other liquid that is
used in oil production, fuels, solvents and so forth. And likely Jimmy
Hoffa....


I painted the body this evening, after the sun went down with Jaso
paint stripper. Whatever it was...started coming off like fingerpaint
in the shower. Ill check it in the morning..fire up the pressure
washer and clean all the gunk off, and see what it looks like.

Gunner