On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 07:43:36 -0000, wrote:

On Aug 7, 11:17 pm, miss liberty wrote:
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 03:12:39 -0000, wrote:
On Aug 7, 11:00 am, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 04:52:27 -0700, wrote:
http://tangibleinfo.blogspot.com/200...rizes-vast-exp...

The Bush/Cheney Administration has spent the last 6+ years building an
organizational, legal, and technical infrastructure for Executive
Branch power, including anything from wiretap infrastructures to the
Patriot Act to stuffing the courts and Justice Department with pro-
executive-power people,

This has gone on forever. The NSA simply knows anything it wants to
about you. The best source of information are commercial spies like
Yahoo, Google and your ISP. NSA/FBI/CIA/IRS simply exploits that
resource and they are quick to comply to virtually any request. Those
are the real spies and I don't hear near enough concern about them

This note here is in that database, along with anything else you say
online. The fact that the government is looking at these data streams
is old news

"tapping" your phone is really intercepting a data stream, not
climbing up a pole and hooking up alligator clips like agent
Youngblood on the old Untouchables.

Whatever the Bush administration is doing, at least some of it seems
to be working quite well. How many terrorist cells have they broken
up with arrests? They just grabbed about 6 guys here in NJ that were
planning an attack on Fort Dix. Those guys are in jail now.

And

there hasn't been an attack in 6 years here in the USA.

I shudder when i read this mindless mantra repeated over & over, like
whistling in the dark

THEY can attack anywhere they want, any time they want, whether
home-grown or islamist terrorists, small-scale or large-scale,
despite heroic efforts by our under-funded, under-staffed authorities

it just hasn't fitted their plans so far,

and if/when they DO strike, the shortage of first responders means
lives lost in the chaos -- because first responders are in the
reserves and are deployed to Iraq, where they are picked off by the
religious civil war that WE unleashed by invading through a series of
deliberate lies building on the trauma of 9/11

Yeah. typical kook nonsense. Look, do you dispute that the US, under
the Bush administration has arrested several cells here in the US that
were planning attacks? Does Fort Dix, NJ ring a bell? How about
the cell that was going to blow up fuel depots/pipelines at JFK?
Those are just 2 that never happened because of good intelligence and
police work.

This nonsense about first responders is just crap.

sorry, it's hard, cold statistics. do some research before you blow
off facts,

that your idea
about how to fight a war? How many first responders would it take to
prevent tens of thouseands of deaths from a chemical attack? Or a
100,000 from a nuclear one?

sure would help if we used the billions that cheney's no-bid
contractors are stealing in iraq/afghanistan to enhance OUR
dismally leaky security!


thanks to the bible-thumping ex-drunk jesus freak draft dodger
nutcase puppet in the white house :

only a tiny fraction of shipping containers are being inspected

The Democrat controlled Congress is free to pass any kind of port
inspection legislation they want. Where is it? Better ask Pelosi
and Reid.




airplane baggage handlers are allowed virtually free access to cargo
holds without their credentials being verified

old ladies are ordered to take their shoes off, while sting operations
repeatedly show weapons smuggled onto planes,

communications systems between levels of local/state/federal
authorities are STILL not coordinated (remember the brave firemen who
died on 9/11 because they could not hear the command NOT to go up
into the twin towers!!!!)

the list is long..

Yeah, the list is long. But is was a hell of a lot longer in the
Clinton administration. What exactly did they do about the above?
What have Reid and Pelosi done? What did Clinton do when he was
presented with the opportunity to launch a cruise missle stike at the
camp where Bin Laden was known to be at the time? Or what did he do
when the Sudan was expelling him? Answer: In the first case, he was
worried about collateral damage, so nothing was done. In the second,
he got a legal opinion that the US had no legal basis to act. Thats
how libs fight wars.

no use going into how many times the bushies let OBL get away for fesr
of offending arab guests..or how totally incompetent has been their
conduct of the invasion

your kind looks at events from strictly a partisan political POV;
forget reality




while we are ****ing away billions on rip-off mercenaries aka
contractors in iraq...massive fraud ...no accountability...

while our soldiers lack needed armor and supplies - sometimes even
food and water on tiny, isolated bases far from the luxurious

and indefensible

green zone

while PTSD and physical vet's care is shockingly lacking - walter
reid was tthe tip of the iceberg

while darth vader tells the puppet to run out the clock till election
day 2008...when it will be somebody else's problem

while domestic needs of american human beings go unfulfilled

and the ****ing pussy congress, even with the new majority is STILL
more interested in re-election to their cushy jobs than in standing up
to the would-be dictators who are ****ting on the Constitution...

--

miss liberty- Hide quoted text -


If it's so God awful bad, why don't you and Michael Moore just leave?

i realize that you're not an american, so you don't understand that
americans don't cut & run -- we stay and work to defeat threats,
internal as well as external, to our young democracy.

oooooops! just realized i was hitting reply to all groups -- wow,
that explains a lot!!!

over & out [thank goodness]

miss liberty