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Default Weird CD4060 behavior

Joerg wrote:
Hello Folks,

See the scope plot and excerpt from the ON Semi datasheet for the
CD4060. The blue trace is at the node RS/Rtc/Ctc, the yellow trace is at
pin 9 which is an output.

Why is there sag at the end of each phase? Rs is 500K and Rtc is 100K. I
mean, that shouldn't be any load to write home about even for a CD
series part.


I understand that you have no more room for inverter packs,
but could you jam in a few more resistors or capacitors? If
so, you could improve the feedback system to pass through
the 1/2 Vdd threshold a lot faster for the same frequency,
and, thus, narrow the high current ramps.

From your scope pictures, I am assuming that the timing
capacitor is about 30 nF. If so, this configuration should
give you about the same frequency, but at a fraction of
the average shoot through current for 2 extra passives:


|\ |\
+--| O---+--------| O-+
| |/ | |/ |
| .-. |
| | |20k |
| | | |
.-. '-' |
| | | || 100n |
| | 500k +----||--+ |
'-' | || | |
| .-. === |
| | | GND |
| | | |
| '-'100k |
| | ||20n|
+---------+--------||---+
||

This configuration reduces the negative feedback and load on
the second inverter and steepens the approach to Vdd/2 at
the input of the first one.