http://www.ourdiablo.hypermart.net/i...P1010002.JPGOn Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:22:32 -0400, Renata wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:56:33 -0500, Frank Boettcher
wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:14:25 -0400, Renata
wrote:
I currently possess no jointer and only miss it occasionally.
I'm on and off as a woodworker, and mainly seem to do kitchen cabinets
and such (i.e. plywood, w/solid trim out). (The never ending
kitchen... pics coming soon - I hope).
I keep thinking I'll find time (and one day I will!) to expand my
horizons.
So, whadya think about acquiring an 8" jointer, used, made in usa? I
fear these might become a rarity, and I'm not too happy with the
chinese crap i've gotten - even delta's x5 line.
If you start with rough cut wood from the saw mill or your own resawn
wood, you will use it constantly, if not, it will probably take up
space.
You will have to go way back to get a made in USA jointer, most went
to Taiwan and then China some time age.
IMHO The best big jointers are the type that use the parallagram table
height adjustment design with eccentrics for coplaner tuning. The
Delta DJ's are excellent, however, they were made in Brazil at Invicta
and badged Delta. They were moved to Taiwan about 10 years ago, still
maintaining very good quality, but Invicta still makes the same unit.
I don't think that design was ever made in the USA.
Hmm. That's interesting. So, you're saying the Delta DJs aren't made
in the USA, but Brazil, now Taiwan for the last 10 years?
Yes, the unit itself. The stands, motors and controls were supplied
from the U.S. factory until about 2004, now they are coming from
China, I think.
Those invicta made units were/are great and there is a big difference
in quality comparing Taiwan to mainland China. Those are still good
units, unless the've been moved to China.
You should avoid the chinese wedge beds unless you are just looking
for low price.
Curious, most X5 units are made in the USA, what X5 unit were you
dissatisfied with?
Bought the X5 drill press. DELTA service was really really BAD to the
point that I will NEVER (NEVER!) buy a new Delta stationary tool
again. They basically took that attitude - well, if you don't like
it, return it. Before which they tried to convince me it was
perfectly acceptable to have it wobble that much. Before which the
person answering the phone said, "what's a drill press".
The drill bit wobbled noticeably. The local vendor, Skarie in
Baltimore, replaced the entire head. To tell you the truth, I haven't
had the opportunity to really test the new head yet.
But, I did have the opportunity to deal with the holes the old one
drilled. My kitchen cabinets' shelf holes all are oversized from the
wobble. I'm taping the shelf pins so they stay in place. This, from
a unit that is their top of the line, and rather pricey.
And, yes - "Made in China" right on the head. Bee-u-ti-ful. I'm so
happy that they're getting such a bargain making the top of the line
models in China so their brilliant MBA (or whatever) CEO has more $ in
his pockets...
You're preaching to the choir here. It is unfortunate. You used to
have a choice not so long ago. The good Delta drill presses were made
by Lindquist Machine Company (LMC) in the USA, but I think that
relationship may be over also.
Problem is, most stuff is made there now.
Thanx
Renata
Frank
Idea being, I _might_ need it one day (right?) and it may not be
available except as chinese junk.
Thanx
Renata