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Default Screws vs dowels

On Jul 30, 5:19?am, dpb wrote:
Wade Lippman wrote:

"dpb" wrote in ...
Toller wrote:
"FoggyTown" wrote in message
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On Jul 29, 3:15?am, "Toller" wrote:
Depends upon (among other things) how good you are, and how fussy
you are.


Dowels require precise fits; screws are much less demanding.
On the other hand, dowels are invisible, but screws are pretty obvious
unless you do an incredible job of matching color and grain on your
plug.


Ooooo . . . no, no, no! You misunderstand me. I have seen many arts
& crafts pieces where the dowels are an actual feature - either by
coloration, grain orientation or protrusion. Hiding them is something
I do NOT want to do. Even if a screwed joint is necessary, I would
make it so the plug is visible.


I expect you are mistaken. They often have exposed tenons, but no
furniture features conspicuous plugs or dowels. Are are are simply
ugly.
...


You might tell that to Sam Maloof and let him know he's been wrong all
these years...


"There are many places in my furniture where a dowel or
mortise-and-tenon joint just does not work because of the thinness of
the wood; so I use screws. In effect the screw is a metal dowel. I am
not a purist. .... I have no qualms about this."


--from Sam Maloof, Woodworker.


"...as an example, it's nothing more than an end grain to long grain
glued joint, drilled through the rail with 3- to 4-inch screws pulling
it tight. Then the screws are just plugged over with a rosewood or
ebony plug for contrast. ..."


From Gary in KC, from having taken one of his classes on chairmaking...


Should I see him I will tell him. Although the are likely to be unusual
instances to the contrary, plugs are ugly.
"If you can't make it attractive, make it conspicuously ugly"?



Thank you for your opinion. That IS all it was, right?


Makes me wonder if you know who Maloof is???

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Makes me wonder if anyone in here knows what "arts & crafts" is.
Gothic revival? Medieval revival? One of the basic features is NO
MECHANICAL FASTENINGS.

FoggyTown