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Default Neither an abortion nor an unplanned childbirth is palatable

On 7 May 2007 21:39:44 -0700, wrote:

On May 8, 3:12 am, (Herman Rubin) wrote:
In article . com,

wrote:
On May 7, 4:36 am, (Luminoso) wrote:
On 6 May 2007 10:37:06 -0700, wrote:
Neither an abortion nor an unplanned childbirth is palatable.
Once a woman's pregnant, the damage has been done.
Children are "damage" ??? That's a worrisome way of
looking at your fellow human beings.


It depends on whose point of view.

In the abortion debate, both sides should focus on the use of birth
control, before a pregnancy occurs.


I very definitely agree.

If people use two forms of birth control there is virtually no risk of
pregnancy.


Your calculations make unwarranted assumptions. Also,
there arer problems with all of the forms. This does
not mean that none should be used.

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Abortion kills a human being, one dependent on the mother granted, but
then so is any newborn infant for quite some time. A very young child
cannot feed itself, turn on the tap, clean itself or anything else.


There is no agreement on when the fetus is human.

We in the Christian camp believe in a judgement.


You may believe anything you want, but attempting to
impose those beliefs is in my opinion committing an
extremely great sin. And to use those beliefs to
require or forbid others from doing things should
be deprived of any right to speak on them.

Basically that is

the point of it all. Killing unborn children is a sure way to earn
God's wrath, as much as killing adults is a sure way to earn such
judgement.


This is your opinion; we have absolutely no way of
knowing whether that is so. You may think that you
have God's word, but God did not dictate it, and it
has gone through many revisions. Besides, God's
judgment will be what it will be, and you have no
right to dictate to people because of your opinion
about what will happen to them from God. What if
you are wrong?

The rest of the preaching has been deleted.

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Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University
Phone: (765)494-6054 FAX: (765)494-0558


What gives you or anybody else the right to kill unborn children
without asking their opinion? What if you are wrong?


Actually they most resemble parasites.

Be fruitfull and multiply has done its bit. The world is now drowning
in humans and we're causing all the other creatures of God to go
extinct. We're supposed to be responsible for the world, not wipe it
out and pave it over.

We need less people in the world, not more. It's a sin to keep
producing more and more people. We should start by getting rid of
rigid assholes who can't figure that out. Any religion that bans
reasonable birth control like condoms should be wiped out first.