On May 5, 8:13 am, "Steve" wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...
Neither an abortion nor an unplanned childbirth is palatable.
Once a woman's pregnant, the damage has been done.
In the abortion debate, both sides should focus on the use of birth
control, before a pregnancy occurs.
If people use two forms of birth control there is virtually no risk of
pregnancy.
Hormonal & Condoms
Hormonal & Pull-Out
Hormonal & Diaphragm
Condoms & Pull-Out
Condoms & Diaphragm
Diaphragm & Pull-Out

You can scratch anything that includes "pull out" as being an effective form
of birth control. You may as well cross your fingers and say three hail
marry's.


That's not actually true. You obviously didn't get the point of my
post.

While the pull-out method is one of the least effective birth control
methods, when combined with another birth control method, the level
of effectiveness is literally staggering.

Furthermore, the pull-out method does have some merit in being better
than no method at all.

Comparisons of pregnancy rates of different contraceptives are from:
http://www.aafp.org/afp/20040215/853.html ; scroll down to "Table 2"

Risk of Accidental Pregnancy per year
Typical use Perfect use
No Method 1 in 1.25 (8 in 10) 1 in 1.25 (8 in 10)
Pull-Out Method 1 in 3.7 1 in 25
Diaphragm 1 in 6.25 1 in 16
Condoms 1 in 6.7 1 in 50
Hormonal Birth
Control Methods 1 in 12.5 1 in 333

Typical use Perfect use
Condoms
& Hormonal Birth Control 1 in 6,666 1 in 1,665,000
Pull-Out & Hormonal 1 in 3,700 1 in 832,500
Diaphragm & Hormonal 1 in 6,250 1 in 532,800
Diaphragm & Condoms 1 in 3,350 1 in 80,000
Pull-Out & Condoms 1 in 1,983 1 in 125,000
Diaphragm & Pull-Out 1 in 1,850 1 in 40,000

As you can see, sex with two forms of birth control is not immoral.
Sex with one or no forms of birth control is immoral.

Calculating for three forms:

Typical use Perfect use
Condoms/Hormonal
/Diaphragm 1 in 3,350,000 1 in 2.664 Billion
Condoms/Hormonal
/Pull-Out 1 in 1,983,200 1 in 4.1625 Billion
Hormonal/Pull-Out
/Diaphragm 1 in 1,850,000 1 in 1.332 Billion
Condoms/Pull-Out
/Diaphragm 1 in 991,600 1 in 200,000,000

All Four Typical use Perfect use
Condoms/Hormonal
/Diaphragm
/Pull-Out 1 in 991,600,000 1 in 66.6 Billion


Of course, three hail marry's might help too.


The Hail Mary Prayer


A prayer for the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary, mother of
Jesus Christ.


Hail Mary, full of grace.
Our Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb,
Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners,
now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.