On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 11:40:11 +0800, Old Nick
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 05:35:07 -0500 (EST),
(DAUBIE1) vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
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Hi,
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NOT IN NY STATE!!
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Try doing that self defense crap will land you in jail 95% of the time!
Maybe if you wait to get wounded, then attack---MAYBE!
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You better damn well be able to prove lethal force was necessary!
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My point among others; in order to prove lethal force, you need to be
dure the guy does not have a dummy gun. You also have to be a nasty,
or very angry *******, very quickly, because you are goping to go for
and aim a gun at t aguy who is already aiming a gun at you.

Ah..not in the States you dont. The dummy gun is legally assumed to be
a real one in cases of self defense. This is one of the reasons toy
guns are required by law to have bright orange end of the barrel.

Another point, which I think I said before. If guns were harder to
get, then the punks would not have had guns.

Punks can always get guns. Always have, always will. Drugs are
illegal. Drugs and guns can be purchased on nearly any street corner.
Even in good old Blimey.

Another point. I can see where the watchmaker may be an angry *******.
But he has been wounded, Many have been killed instead, gun or not.

Yup..but those that fought back, went down swinging, or shooting,
rather than simply butchered like a sheep. And most win. Fighting
back generally makes the bad guy go away.

Can we be sure that he was not being chosen simply _because_ he was a
challenge? Why would I rob a store that was famous for being
dangerous, when there are a hundred watchmakers in the town?

Criminals tend to be stupid. Incredibly so. Most have the brain power
of a ****ant. Common sense is rare among the breed. I used to be a
cop.

As the watchmaker started to discover, all that was happening was
escalation; more and more and bigger and bigger guns.

So he simply should have been killed out of hand after the first one
or two robberies and it would have made you feel much better. Right?


"If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns!"

And they do, even in YOUR country.

"If guns are made easy to get, _every_ outlaw will have a gun! He will
want to use it first. You have to prove he was going to, or had."

Every outlaw can get a gun, and most do. In fact, lots of cities have
criminal "gun rentals" where they rent one for the crime.

You seem to think the genie can be put back in the bottle. No can do.
Sorry.

Gunner


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.........no I'm not!
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Does Bill Gates dream of electronic sheep?

"Gun Control, the theory that a 110lb grandmother should
fist fight a 250lb 19yr old criminal"