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Default Does as GFCI give you some surge protection?

On Apr 3, 12:12 pm, "bud--" wrote:
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More standard 'cut and paste' replies from Bud as he follows me
everywhere - as a troll - to promote grossly overpriced and unearthed
protectors.

What does a protector do? Connects surges to earth ground. Earth
provides protection when a surge does not and need not enter the
building. Bud's page 42 Figure 8 shows exactly what a protector
does. No classic and necessary 'less than 10 foot' connection to
earth. So it earthed a surge - 8000 volts - destructively through a
TV. But then the protector did as designed. Protectors only connect
surges to earth. Protector simply connected that surge to earth,
destructively, via a TV.

Same problem exists when a kid connects an Xbox to a TV. Bud's
reply: you must teach the kid how to connect his Xbox. So it is the
kid's fault if damage occured - because Bud's ineffective protector
was used? Yes, according to Bud.

Responsible manufacturers provide effective solutions. Products
from GE, Siemens, Square D, Intermatic, Cutler-Hammer, Leviton and
other responsible manufacturers are found in Lowes, Home Depot, and
electrical supply houses. Bud will lie incessantly in fear. He will
deny that some of these sufficiently sized products can be found in
Lowes and Home Depot for less than $50. He fears you might discover
how much less expensive that effective solution is.

Bud's own citations define what is required of a protector:
http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/p.../surgesfnl.pdf
You cannot really suppress a surge altogether, nor
"arrest" it. What these protective devices do is
neither suppress nor arrest a surge, but simply
divert it to ground, where it can do no harm.


As demonstrated on Page 42 Figure 8 in
http://www.mikeholt.com/files/PDF/Li...ublishedversio...
No earth ground means no effective protection Effective 'whole
house' protectors properly earthed 'less than 10 feet' mean all
protection inside all TVs (and all other household appliances - even
smoke detectors and bathroom GFCIs) are not overwhelmed. But if you
learn this, then Bud's income may be harmed.