On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:04:33 -0400, mm
wrote:

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:10:51 -0700, aspasia wrote:

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 00:39:20 -0400, mm
wrote:

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:24:08 -0700, aspasia wrote:



Guys, the best way to show the steps is to show them.

I have a couple of step pictures that would make everything clear

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OK, I have posted two pictures of the side steps on
alt.binaries.pictures.gardens under the Subject
"Side Steps".

OK, they're much bigger than I thought (yet not big enough to put an
intermediate step in like I did with pavers between my stoop and front
door.)

And there are two steps, not one, and the first step didn't sink wrt
the second as the other guy suggested and I thought.

And I guess there are only two risers, but isn't the distance from the
top step to the door sill an important distance too, and it seems as
high as the second riser.

Riser from top step to second step is 9". (It's only supposed to be
6".) Bottom riser is 6".

Also, I think there's supposed to be some kind of landing on top,
which I would like them to make, if I ever get the job done.

And the first step is not shaped to make it that easy to layer wood on
it. And maybe a layer of cement wouldn't be any harder, but that
brings us back to my previous paragraph and the step from the top step
to the door sill.

Yeah, I ran through all those possibilities, and nothing worked except
replace the whole thing.

A picture is truly worth a thousand words.

Hope you will check out these pictures and give your
input. So far, I only have one bid for wood steps and
hand rail,which is fine with me. (see earlier in this thread).

And was that a reasonable price? Less than your grant? Including I
suppose removal of the first steps. Which I suppose requires breaking
them up first, a nothing job for someone who owns an electric jack
hammer, but more work for someone who has to rent one or do it some
other way.

As I posted earlier, my grant was for $4000, and the only bid I
received was $625 over. I asked the City if they could up the grant;
am awaiting reply.

The only bidder hasn't replied to my follow-up query, so she must have
decided she's not interested.

*******That's why I originally posted on this NG -- asking where I
could look for a contractor/handman other than the Yellow Pages.*****


TIA for your advice.

Your bid might be fine. Is it for two steps or three? I don't have a
computer tape measure, but it seems like you need 3.

Most definitely.

If one is shorter than the others, shouldn't it be the lowest step?
Or if it is custom made, will they be the same, even though that might
make each less than standard? People do standard height steps without
thinking.

If custom made -- seems like the only option -- they should be the
same.

I have maybe the least experience in many things of anyone here, but
on a good day I have ideas, some zany, and many questions. Here, I
wonder if you can buy a pre-fab 3step cement steps, and how much prep
has to be done to put it in place.

I doubt strongly if such a thing exists!

And will it sink, when lighter wooden steps won't. I would think
that neither would sink, given that your current steps have packed the
earth down very well.

Agreed! After all these decades (I am the 2nd owner) it should be!

And what kind of nice railing could be built for prefab cement steps.

And I think wood will require painting every few years, but what bout
that "wood" from recycled plastic they use for decks these days. A
little more expensive but no maintenance required.
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Because this group gets so much traffic, this post was pretty high up
from the bottom, and often I don't see followups that are this far up.
With Agent and maybe other pprograms, even if you start a new thread
with the new thread button, if it is called by the same Subject, it
will thread together and I still will see it only way high up. I call
it the Psychology of Computers, when I try to figure out how programs
I have never used work with my email and news posts.

Do you receive your posts "threaded" by Subject, or by Date?

If by Date, mine should be near the top.

If "threaded", all you have to do is click on the + and it will
unthread the posts to that Subject.

Thanks for your interest and help.

aspasia