On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:38:02 -0600, Tim Daneliuk
wrote:

jo4hn wrote:
Joe Bleau wrote:
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:01:25 -0800, jo4hn
wrote:

OK people. Think climate change rather than increases in temp
wherever you might be. Some places may experience nastier or better
weather but the overall change is an increase in temp with polar caps
and glaciers melting. It's been happening for years now. Not gonna
get better. Drive hybrid, save a polar bear.
luck to all,
jo4hn


It has been happening for years, for eons even. Millions of years
before man ever appeared the earth was warming and cooling.

Drive SUVs and remember to save a tree you might think about wiping
with spotted owls.

Joe
Well, ignoring the cutsie bs about spotted owls and all, keep in mind
that Antarctic ice cores show that the current concentration of carbon
dioxide in the air is the highest that it has ever been (.3 million

Not so. It is the highest it has been *in a long time*, not "ever".

I'm curious--do you have a source for that information? The analysis
that I've seen of ice cores suggest that it is indeed the highest it
has been during the period of time covered by the ice cores. My
research in this area however has been quite limited and I may well be
looking in all the wrong places.

years). The number of REFERREED scientific papers that scoff at man
aided CO2 is zero. Enough.
or you might try prayer,
jo4hn

Now all you have to do is:

a) Demonstrate that CO2 is causal for global warming (not done to date).

At this point you will earn a Ph.D.

b) Demonstrate that human action is causal for the increased CO2 levels (not done to date).

At this point you will get tenure.

c) Demonstrate that global warming's effects are severe and harm the environment
(entirely speculative to date).

At this point you will get unlimited funding.

d) Demonstrate that mankind can actually substantially do something about
it by changing behavior (wild speculation to date).

At this point you might be electable to public office.

Gore and the Earth Worshiping Pantheists wanna skip a-c and go right to d.