Damn, Gunner, there you go again, quoting the U.S. Constitution! I like the
2nd one, myself. Hadn't read it in a while. Doesn't refer to duck hunting,
does it?

Me? For entertainment, I build guns. For real enjoyment, I go out and kill
something.

Mike Eberlein

Gunner wrote:

On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 22:21:59 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:



jim rozen wrote:


Which is odd, because any time somebody wants to slap the
"L" label on their opponent, they call them a 'card carrying
member of the ACLU.' Which, last time I checked, was an
organization devoted exclusively to doing what I mentioned
above. Upholding the bill of rights.

One slaps the L label on those it applies to. If it walks like a duck,
quacks like a duck, has webbed feet and swims in the water, its
unlikely to be a kangaroo.

The rabid Right is always willing to brand anyone who has an opinion
even slightly different with the "L" word. In fact that is their
favorite tactic.

Hummm is this like saying the conservatives want to poison the air and
water, starve the children, take away Grandmas home and make her die
in the snow? Or perhaps describing the Right as the N word, or the F
word?

It is odd that those who don't have a clue about the Bill of Rights and
don't seem to want one are so keee to lable an organization that is as
willing to take up the cause of the Klan in Skokee as it is the NAACP in
Atlanta as "liberal". The bill of Rights says what it says. Not what
some people think it should. There are far to many people that do not
realize that a loss of a right to one is a loss to all.

The ACLU does indeed do good work. Unfortunately they are mighy
selective about which rights they attempt to protect.
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The Conventions of a number of the States having, at the time of
adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent
misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and
restrictive clauses should be added, and as extending the ground of
public confidence in the Government will best insure the beneficent
ends of its institution;

Resolved, by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United
States of America, in Congress assembled, two-thirds of both Houses
concurring, that the following articles be proposed to the
Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution
of the United States; all or any of which articles, when ratified by
three-fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and
purposes as part of the said Constitution, namely:

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free
state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be
infringed.

Amendment III
No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without
the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be
prescribed by law.

Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous
crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except
in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when
in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any
person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of
life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a
witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or
property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be
taken for public use, without just compensation.

Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a
speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and
district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district
shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of
the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the
witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining
witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his
defense.

Amendment VII
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed
twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no
fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of
the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor
cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be
construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states
respectively, or to the people.

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Now..would you care to discuss which ones the ACLU has ignored?
Remember..google is your friend....

Gunner

"To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem.
To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized,
merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas