Aidan wrote:
On Dec 1, 12:28 am, "Phil L" wrote:


An interesting opinion, Phil.
Wasn't it you that told a poster that they had 30 psi gas pressure?
I said 2bar, which is what the gas is at the mains side of the
meter, in many areas, certainly mine because I know several people
who work for Transco.

No. What you said was;

"You turned the gas on? - what did you expect to happen considering
the gas
is at about 30lbs pressure? "

You did not qualify that statement; it seems you had believed that
there was a normal pressure of 30 psi at the test nipple You were also
confused about gauge and absolute pressures. In short, you know
remarkably little about the topic about which you are posting.


Whatever, I'm not getting into some pathetic competition, if you need your
ego massaging, try elsewhere, 'about 30lbs' as opposed to 2 bar - do you
know what a 'bar' is?

If you want to know what the Corgi bunch think of them, read this;

http://www.screwfix.com/talk/thread.jspa?threadID=47473&tstart=45


I don't care what the 'Corgi bunch' have
to say about them, the manufacturers make them to fit in with current
regulations, which they do, if people are too stupid to fit them
correctly or use them according to instructions then that's up to
them, but don't blame the fire manufacturer for other people's
stupidity.

There is no relevant British Standard.

1) do you not imagine that these plans and designs have been passed as safe
by anyone?
2) just because some dweeb doesn't know how to install one without killing
people doesn't make them unsafe
3) there's no relevant british standard for thousands of everyday items,
they don't have to be.


The Corgi bunch and the ARGI bunch are registered gas fitters, some of
whom know something about gas appliances. Every single comment in that
thread was opposed to flueless gas fires, none would fit them.


You know better?

Yes, yes I do.

Are you Drivel?


No I'm not drivel, are you?

They are incredibly efficient, no chimney to take away 75% of the
heat you see.

No, they are not "incredibly efficient". The fires have no
ventilation; the vitiated air must be replaced with cold, fresh air
from outside. This also applies to the CO2 exhaled by people. The
fires may appear to be efficient to those who are technically naive
and who make no allowance for this.

They are incredibly efficient.


At best, the IAQ will deteriorate. If the ventilation is inadequate,
the O2 will be consumed and the fire will then emit CO, regardless of
the catalysts and how it was installed.

Ooohh, big words, you must be really clever, why don't you go in for 'head
of fire design' at some large company, that way you might impress someone,
or are you attempting to redefine the word '****'?