aspasia wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks it's hysterical that poster aspasia, who
claims to be so knowledgable of White House conspiracies and the causes
of California's past electric shortage, is the one that can't figure
out how much it costs to run a heater that has 100W printed on it?
Or that aspasia called the CA electric company and they couldn't give
an answer, either? LOL!

Elec. co. were quite right to require a wattage before quoting a
price. As it happens, I was on the phone with a nice lady who was
about to give me the info when I had to take an incoming call. I got
the info from a COURTEOUS poster on this NG, rather than call the
elec. co. again and push buttons till I got a human being.

Of course to get a quote, one needs -- as a COURTEOUS poster pointed
out, to get the KW/hr price for the locality.


Yeah, and anyone with a brain would just look at their bill that comes
every month, instead of calling up the electric company and wasting
their time. And apparently you are so stupid that you called thinking
they can tell you how much electric it's going to use without you
knowing how many watts it is.




As to poster's "hysterical" message above, he mixes Apples and
Oranges. This is a familiar tactic which involves conflating two or
more unrelated matters to create a gestalt which promotes the desired
profile.

No apples and oranges. The fact that you are so stupid you can't
understand an electric bill has direct bearing on how much you likely
know about what caused the energy crisis in CA, much less conspiracies
directed from the White House. The dummer you are, the more likely
you are to not understand things and believe in nonsense. They go hand
in hand.




It has been used politically to influence the Radical Religious Right,
which is not big on critical thinking.


Particularly during the last six years, this mindless practice has
been expertly exploited by Bush's Brain, aka Karl Rove.


Yes, caught in your own glaring stupidity, just keep going on about
Bush. That's typical kook strategy.





The "conspirators" (for that is just what they are) have used their
expertise in manipulating the compliant media to disseminate loud,
but inaccurate information to the ignorant voter, who also is not
big on critical thinking.

1. by Republicans to ruin the career of a U.S. Senator, triple
amputee Vietnam veteran Max Cleland by juxtaposing his image with that
of Osama bin Laden.

2. by Republicans to blacken the reputation of a Vietnam war hero,
Senator Foot-in-Mouth Kerry by charging that he did not deserve the
Purple Heart -- this "Swift Boat" campaign funded in large part by a
wealthy Texan named Bob J. Perry. So barefaced was this smear that
the expression "to Swift Boat" has passed into the political lingo.

3. by Republicans during the 2000 Republican presidential primary to
damage candidate John McCain by suggesting that he sired a black
child out of wedlock (actually he and wife adopted an Asian orphan).
See Boston Globe story at: http://tinyurl.com/yl3rz2.

Are there similar examples of Democratic smear campaigns?

Yes, how about the ads run by Democrats that showed churchs burning and
implied that's why you had to vote for Dems?

Or how about claiming that President Bush's service as a pilot in the
National Guard was less than honorable? Think that didn't offend
folks in the national guard or service? Funny how Bush's National
Guard service was supposed to be a less than honerable thing when
running against Kerry, but when Clinton ran for president, his having
written letters of "loathing" the military and not having served period
was not an issue? Hypocritical, eh?

Or how about just this week? Seems Dem John Murtha finally got
outted with a video showing him saying to an FBI agent with a briefcase
full of $50K cash "I'm not interested in that, ......At this point.
We do business for a few years, then maybe I will be interested, maybe
I won't" Curious how with Murtha slinging muck, just like you, at
the administration and our troops for a year, nobody brought this up.
Not even at election time. But now he got into a nasty little fight
for the #2 spot in the House with a fellow Dem, and bingo out it comes.



This Independent voter hasn't found any, but is open to FACTUAL
instances.

Independent ? LOL And you wouldn't know a fact if it hit you in
the head. You're so stupid, you can't even read and figure out an
electric bill!



Democrats, unfortunately, are too disorganized, and perhaps not amoral
enough, to mount the same Mafia-like, laser-guided,
loyalty-above-truth campaigns so expertly engineered by the monolithic
Rove-ian machine.


See Murtha about that!