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Default kitchen circuits 15 amp vs 20 amp outlets

And the code still doesn't allow you to share the required small appliance
circuits with "other outlets"


"Seth Goodman" wrote in message
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In article , on Thu, 16
Nov 2006 11:33:21 GMT, Doug Miller wrote:

In article , Seth
Goodman wrote:
In article , on Thu, 16
Nov 2006 00:59:50 GMT, Doug Miller wrote:

In article , "RBM" rbm2(remove
wrote:
The NEC prohibits installing lights on kitchen outlet circuits, other
than
ones plugged into the outlets

I don't think that's correct -- do you have a Code cite for it? I see
where
the Code prohibits other *outlets* on those circuits (e.g. in other
rooms),
but I don't see a prohibition against lighting.


PMFJI, but please see 2005 NEC 210.23(A)

Quote:

(A) 15- and 20-Ampere Branch Circuits. A 15- or 20-ampere branch circuit
shall be permitted to supply lighting units or other utilization
equipment, or a combination of both, and shall comply with 210.23(A)(1)
and (A)(2).

Exception: The small appliance branch circuits, laundry branch circuits,
and bathroom branch circuits required in a dwelling unit(s) by 210.11(C)
(1), (C)(2), and (C)(3) shall supply only the receptacle outlets
specified in that section.



Right... but since Code requires two small appliance circuits in a
kitchen, a
*third* outlet circuit could supply virtually any other loads as well,
because
that third circuit is not a "small appliance branch circuit ... required
...
by 210.11(C) ..." and thus not subject to that restriction.


The code doesn't require *exactly* two. It requires at *least* two.

See 210.52(B)(3) "Kitchen Receptacle Requirements", which says "not
fewer than two small appliance branch circuits". Other sections use the
term "at least two". You can have as many as you want = 2, but if they
supply kitchen outlets, they are still small appliance branch circuits,
and must obey code. There are some exceptions, but none that would allow
supplying a light fixture on the same circuit as a refrigerator. As RBM
suggested earlier, there's nothing to prevent one from plugging in a
light (such as a night light) on the same circuit as the refrigerator
(unless it's a dedicated refrigerator circuit).

If you still disagree, please provide Code cites. If you don't own a
copy of the NEC, you can read it on-line at:
http://nfpa-acs-01.gvpi.net:8080/rrs...NFPASTD/7005SB

You'll need to allow Java and pop-ups.

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Seth Goodman