On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 09:57:50 GMT, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .

VOTERS` VIEWS ON FIREARM OWNERS` RIGHTS AND HUNTING


The highly respected research firm Zogby International...

Sorry, NRA, you're two years too late. Zogby International is the research
firm that *used to be* highly respected. Since 2002, it's become the tramp
of the industry:

http://www.prospect.org/print/V14/1/mooney-c.html

This is the same Zogby that conducted a poll for the Doris Day Animal League
and found (?) that 51% of Americans believe that chimpanzees are entitled to
the same rights as human children:

"First, the poll didn't ask about primates -- a category including anything
from pygmy mouse lemurs to gorillas -- but about chimpanzees. Second, the
actual question gave respondents four options to choose from: In brief, they
could say that chimps ought to be treated "like property," "similar to
children," "the same as adults" or "not sure." Given this particular set of
choices, option two was the obvious pick -- almost as if respondents were
steered toward it. And after 51 percent had chosen "similar to children,"
the Zogby survey inexplicably translated "similar" into "the same" in its
conclusions -- a very big difference. The Doris Day Animal League then
reported this in its press materials."

(From "John Zogby's Creative Polls, And a closer look at his methods" by
Chris Mooney, 2.1.03, _The American Prospect_)

No doubt Americans support hunting and firearms ownership to a high degree.
But don't count on the results of this poll to give you any idea how *many*
of them actually do. If somebody commissions a poll and wants a particular
result, Zogby has, in recent years, found a way to get it.

Hummm then it sounds like Dems polls doesnt it?

I posted it without comment.

Gunner

" ..The world has gone crazy. Guess I'm showing my age...
I think it dates from when we started looking at virtues
as funny. It's embarrassing to speak of honor, integrity,
bravery, patriotism, 'doing the right thing', charity,
fairness. You have Seinfeld making cowardice an acceptable
choice; our politicians changing positions of honor with
every poll; we laugh at servicemen and patriotic fervor; we
accept corruption in our police and bias in our judges; we
kill our children, and wonder why they have no respect for
Life. We deny children their childhood and innocence- and
then we denigrate being a Man, as opposed to a 'person'. We
*assume* that anyone with a weapon will use it against his
fellowman- if only he has the chance. Nah; in our agitation
to keep the State out of the church business, we've
destroyed our value system and replaced it with *nothing*.
Turns my stomach- " Chas , rec.knives